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Mega-fail: Mega-church hiding under mega-rock
HILLSONG: WHERE WERE THE CREEDS?
Our family attended Hillsong back in the early days of CLC.
During our entire time at CLC/Hillsong, we never heard about creeds. If you mentioned the word ‘creed’ to us back then, we would have no idea what you were talking about. In the very early years, people we knew didn’t remember any creeds – even as far back as the late 70s.
HILLSONG TODAY: TRYING TO LOOK ORTHODOX AND CREEDAL.
Move forward to 2014, I am disgusted to see Hillsong trying to appear orthodox. They’re not! Marketing themselves as ‘orthodox’ when they’re aren’t. That’s dishonest!
It was noticable this year that Hillsong, in their marketing, was trying to look as though they are part of the historic Christian faith, appearing to be orthodox. However, the attached video actually reveals the fact that leaders and members of Hillsong, to this day, are unaware of the creeds and still do not recite them in their church. (Listening to the dialogue you can tell they don’t know why the creeds were written.)
At Hillsong Conference 2014, this interview was streamed from their Hillsong conference website.
Rich Langton: So the creed. The apostle’s creed. I can remember as I think probably others will as well in high school reciting that week on week- week in, week out. And um, it was always meaningful because of the exactly what was on the video we just saw. But Ben, for you, did you know about the Apostle’s creed? What did you know about it before writing this song?
Ben Fielding: Well I did know it. I actually went to an Anglican school. Ans so we recited the Apostle’s creed, And so I knew of it. It had been a few years since I had revisited it. And so I probably couldn’t have recited verbatim, like so many people can throughout the church.
And what I did know of it, is that it was an incredibly unifying body of text and that it was a core statement of belief that literally you know, pushes aside all the other things that might divide us and distract us from the main thing. And it just goes and states all the things that we hold to be most true. And um, there is an incredible power when we can come to together in agreement and in unity. And the creed brings that and our hope is that this song brings that.
Rich Langton: That’s great. And so Ben again, we’re not really a credal denomination.
Ben Fielding: No.
Rich Langton: So then what place do songs hold for us and churches like ours?
Ben Fielding: Yeah. Well I mean I guess in many respects songs are the contemporary creed. And they don’t replace the creed or the creeds but they become our theology contained in song. And I think as a song writer, I mean I hold that responsibility with great value and I don’t want to treat likely the responsibility that we have because we’re stewards of the truth of the gospel. And we put words in the mouths of our church and potentially churches outside of our church. So it is imperative that what we’re singing is true. And that we’re singing the kinds of things that would hold up for centuries upon centuries. And I think that challenge is a great challenge.
Source: Interview, Hillsong Conference 2014.
CHRISTIAN ‘BASHING’?
What makes me angry is how, in the past, Hillsong had always portrayed a bias against churches that are traditional. It was infused into my thinking that I was involved in something that was Spirit-filled and divinely relevant. I was told to think of traditional churches, like the Anglican or Baptist churches, as religious, spiritually dead, white-washed tombs, dull, boring, lifeless, full of religious spirits and so on.
I’m now seeing how Hillsong has changed tactics. They are introducing their false theology and influence into those same ‘traditional’ churches (those same apparently ‘dead, white-washed tombs’ etc) through their music. They’re trying to impact on all denominations by pushing their all-inclusive ‘Jesus’, that same ‘Jesus’ who lacks any form of biblical integrity, with Hillsong leadership showing a total absence of sound doctrine pointing to Him.
Looking back, I can see why. The Hillsong movement’s ‘theology’ keeps evolving. I can now identify times when we were exposed to Word of Faith, Latter Rain and even when they started emphasising Church Growth teaching (Yonggi Cho with his cell groups). It is a movement that is tossed by every wind and wave of doctrine, based on the most popular teaching or the most popular preacher. It’s sad for me to reflect on the fact that these teachings weren’t Christian. If I knew then what I know now, I would have approached my relationships with friends in other denominations, in a more biblical way.
MY JOURNEY OUT.
Did anything really ‘bad’ happen to me at Hillsong? Well, without realizing it, something bad was happening – at the time I just didn’t understand how dangerous their theology was. However, when I found myself ‘stumbling’ across resources on the internet; when I started studying and learning about the Christian faith, I felt completely violated.
Christianity was so much more than what Hillsong offered me. From my discovery, I ‘felt’ that these Hillsong thieves robbed me of so much over the years. And I say thieves, because they robbed me of discovering the riches of a glorious God and His saving grace, and the amazing heritage of the Christian faith that I have come to love and appreciate. I have so much catching up to do. All these truths I should have received if they actually bothered to preach the bible faithfully!
I felt all ‘hacked up’ with no place to go. For years, Hillsong had deliberately cut themselves off from the rest of the body of Christ because they always wanted to be in the so-called will of God doing the next “new thing”. Looking back, my experience at Hillsong reminds me of Mormonism. It’s kinda like I got that ‘warm feeling’ (also described as ‘burning in the bosom’ in Mormonism) in my chest – that God ‘wanted’ me to know that Hillsong and their ‘prophet’ were truly of God, that the rest of Christianity needs to keep up with us.
The mainstream church needed to change with us or die without us.
When I left Hillsong, I felt like a complete alien. I am about to step into a ‘dead’ church? What would I see? Would I like it? Is the ‘Spirit’ there? What does the ‘Spirit’ look like now?
I left Hillsong with a bunch of people because we were so sick of what we felt was a very shallow, plastic, exhausting, religious environment. I’m grateful to have found more freedom and depth in my local church. Yes, we do recite and appreciate the spiritual depth of the creeds, yes, we do go through some of the confessions and yes, we learn about church history. Most importantly, I hear a biblical gospel and hear God’s Word rightly handled.
MY GROWTH IN CHRIST.
After all the songs I had sung, after all the sermons I heard, after all the conferences I attended and all the guest speakers I ‘idolized’, I’m still growing in my ‘new’ faith. Before, I sadly confess, I was ‘always learning but never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth’ (2 Timothy 3:7).
I am now someone who Hillsong would probably call ‘religious’, or label a Pharisee. But I would say this: it was me they were shutting out of the Kingdom of Heaven. It was the Hillsong leadership who were denying me access to our God through their lack of faithful preaching of His gospel and His Word and their integrity.
“But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.” Matt 23:13
Hillsong tried to make me feel ‘good’ but I felt plastic and insulated. I was never sure if I was good enough for God, or if I was what He wanted me to be. When someone actually asked me the gospel because they needed Jesus, I didn’t even know what to say! That was the start of my journey out of Hillsong. I’m ashamed to say that I was a Christless, creedless, and clueless Christian in Hillsong.
But not any more. I find myself evangelizing more effectively, and know how to present my faith honourably before God and friends.
I thank God I am out.
Hillsong Church Watch 
You people are so sad why don’t you get a life.. Move on!!
“[…] why don’t you get a life […]”
The sort of life that Brian Houston offers, Bev? One that revolves around money, power, and sex? One that involves loving the things of this world with all one’s heart? A life of religious works, straining and striving for acceptance and success, but never quite reaching the mirage on the horizon to which hillsong directs its victims? A godless and shallow existence that is punctuated by regular doses of Houston’s powerless feel-good fluff as you limp through a spiritual desert that is as dry as old bones?
If that’s the sort of life that you lead, then I feel really sorry for you, because, in following a vain, shallow and self-centred individual such as Brian Houston, you have become just like him – just as the Bible says, a student becomes like their teacher. And although things are bad for you now, come the Day of Judgement they will be infinitely worse, because on that day, when you come face to face with the Lord of Glory, you will realise with horror that you are standing before someone who is to you a total stranger – but then it will be too late.
Bev – if you’re addressing the person who submitted their testimony, they have moved on. They now enjoying that new life promised in Christ, no longer ‘Christless, creedless or clueless’.
That’s the very point Bev, you said it perfectly. You get a life when you move on. Moving on from Hillsong will give you a life. They take your money, your time and twist your brain with all kinds of gobbldy gook, absolutely Bev. I’ve found you can reject everything Hillsong stands for, which is mainly money, sex, lies and tying up your time and move on to a fantastic life. Jesus doesn’t leave you when you leave Hillsong, He sets you free from all the lies and corruption. Oh absolutely Bev you took the words right out of my mouth. In fact the truth is that if you don’t tow the line at Hillsong by giving them money they want you to move on.
just want to say… hope you people all feel goo d about what you have to say, imagine if it was your father and you had no idea and then you found this out.. suicidal comes to mind, specially when you loved him dearly and thought he was the best person on earth, your all so cool think about how your comments affect his family.. and actually Brian also had no idea!! but hey persecute us all if that makes you feel good!!
Here is a passage often used RE Jesus’s viewpoint on others offending/ hurting children:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+18%3A1-7&version=KJV
Now does that mean Jesus believes Christians should NEVER say anything or do anything that might hurt people’s – especially children’s – feelings EVER?
Search “truth” on Biblegateway website. Look at how much God loves the truth. Now search for words like lies, liar, deceive, deception, falsehood. Look at how God loathes lies. Jesus said Satan is the Father of Lies. (John 8:44).
Now Google “Lies of omission”. Omitting facts that might make people change their minds if they had all the facts can be just as deceptive as blatant lies. Hillsong omits the need for repentance from sin, the need to deny yourself, the need to please God more than self, the need to grow in truth and holiness.
Now Bev, the Hillsong message “come to Jesus and He will give you Life” is only part of the truth. Where is the part of the truth that would make *unsaved people* walk away i.e. “to be saved from Hell you must turn from your sins, believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, and live to please God “?
Can you look at the big picture and realize that many people’s eternal salvation at risk IS a higher priority than a preacher’s relative’s feelings being hurt?
Bev – I think you’re commenting under the wrong article.
churchwatcher, I think Bev is Brian’s sister. Not sure but I think so.
Do tell: Certainly looks like it, going by the email link. Matches up with comments on other blogs. It’s a bit disingenuous of her to say “your all so cool think about how your comments affect his family.. and actually Brian also had no idea!!” We have already noted his response to comments on his twitter stream, especially when challenged about the word “modalist” (in reference to T.D. Jakes) which he claimed is not even in the dictionary. Quite frankly. he went ballistic.
“I think Bev is Brian’s sister.”
We all know that Brian is a long way from being the sharpest tool in the shed; obviously it runs in the family very strongly.
My apologies – the sister I’m thinking of is Maureen Bradshaw (nee Houston), who has commented acknowledging she’s Frank Houston’s daughter on another blog. And Beverley Houston is the other daughter/sister
I’m not sure if any of the Houstons understand, that their father did much worse things to young boys than any of the commenters in here. This blog is mainly good people giving some very sound advice. Its generally not a mean blog at all but full of very very good advice. Just because its aimed at Hillsong, doesn’t matter, they aren’t perfect, far from it . To point out the many errors of Hillsong is a good thing, it takes discernment which is rare these days.
I think the Houstons are deceived to put themselves on some kind of pedestal as if they are immune to criticism. Their own father was the cause of infinitely more horror, in any of his victims, than anyone on this blog. The Houstons can get over it just like Hillsong’s advice to Franks victims is. The victims can’t get over it and no one should expect them to.
“[…] but hey persecute us all if that makes you feel good!!”
Hey Bev,
I’ve got a question for you: if Brian Houston is all that he claims to be, how come he isn’t here to personally defend himself? Why does Brian have to hide behind your skirt, Bev?
Brian reckons that people giving him a serve on Twitter are “demonic” – if that’s true, why doesn’t he comment here and rebuke us in the name of Jesus, so that we’ll all run away and leave him alone? It could only be because either:
(a) It’s not true that those opposing him are “demonic”, or
(b) Brian doesn’t have the authority to rebuke demons.
If it’s (a), then Brian is a liar, if it’s (b), then he’s clearly not a Christian, since all true Christians have authority to rebuke demons and put them to flight.
So which one is it, Bev? (a) or (b)?
I don’t recall whether or not anyone here has referred to Brian and his hillsong henchmen as being gutless cowards Bev, but we all know that actions speak louder than words, don’t we? Don’t you think it’s really strange that your hero Brian – the infallible pastor in shining armour – is conspicuous here by virtue of his absence? No one doubts that Brian is ever so brave on his home turf, where he’s quite the big talker, but it seems that he doesn’t fancy his chances in environments where he can’t control the outcome, doesn’t it?
Brian would have us all believe that he is an overcomer, but his track record reveals the sad truth. Brian Houston is a chronic under-achiever.
Bev, I’m wondering if you spend a lot of time on Twitter too? Do you also lead “worship” at Hillsong? If so, then maybe I’ve got you pegged. You seem to have a lot to say there, where your peers show you a lot of support, but don’t have that much to say here? Any particular reason for that?
I for one, do not hate the people of Hillsong – I recognise the fact that there are fine Christian people in and amongst the congregation – I’ve met them over the years, BUT…
I do want you to gain the ability to do some critical thinking about your beliefs and your environment Bev, because that is what you get robbed of – your ability to critically evaluate what is being said and done to you – all of you – at the Hillsong campuses.
Brian Houston is a wiley enough old fox to know, that if he can get young inexperienced people into the “right” atmosphere, with the right backdrops and “cool music” playing, he can make them like putty in his hands – all deceivers know how to manipulate these things to their advantage – it’s virtually an art form for them.
Then, when the moment comes, he will either praise you for “a job well done” or he will criticise you and guilt trip you into believing that you must do more – give more – sacrifice more – and you must answer to him and not to the Lord alone.
Does that sound more like it Bev? Is that the Hillsong that you have come to know and love?
“[Does Bev] also lead “worship” at Hillsong?”
I would be surprised if Bev is a “leader” at hillsong. I mean, have a squiz at her comments – surely no “leader” would serve up such a load of inane tripe, would they? On the contrary, one would expect that anyone in leadership would offer up considered and reasoned arguments, with such Scriptural support as might be deemed needful. They would make a compelling case, and they would do so in a manner that belied their erudition and showcased their wisdom.
But I don’t see any of that when I read Bev’s comments: what I see is someone who is apparently unaware that she should capitalise the first letter of each sentence.
There is an aphorism that holds that “A’s hire B’s, B’s hire C’s”; if Bev *is* a leader at hillsong, then that fact certainly reflects very poorly on whoever it was who placed her in that position. It’s no wonder that between the lot of them, hillsong leadership can’t figure out what the Gospel is.
“[…] actually Brian also had no idea […]”
To say that Brian Houston doesn’t have an idea is a truism, Bev.
@Bev – I think that you’ll find Bev that most of the people who come here regularly (that’s a lot of people each day Bev!) have in fact, moved on. They are far enough away to lose the mirage that Hillsong is anything like the church described in the New Testament. You have to distance yourself away from the danger zone in order to get some perspective…
It’s like looking at an image from some 30 metres out – it looks good at that distance – nice clothes, well groomed, presentable, but when you get up close and personal, you realise that what you have been looking at is not a person at all – it’s a store dummy! It’s a false image – one that is designed to entice and deceive.
The kind of item you find along with all the other “shop window dressing” that is placed prominantly out front, so that potential customers will enter the shop and see what is on offer… false doctrine, unbiblical practices, Mammon worship and on special this week only – a conference for those who just love retail therapy! There really is no other name like David Jxxxx, is there?
Many of us do recognise the harm and hurt that was caused by the discovery of Frank Houston’s sin, but then again Bev, he chose to do that, and there are always consequences for our actions – for better or worse, and those consequences often impact on others, which we may not consider at the time our choices are being made.
The fact that many people have testified over the period that there was no public sympathy for the victims of those crimes, shows us that Hillsong leadership is still employing cult tactics on the issue. Cult leaders never admit that they’ve done anything wrong, except when a court of law catches them out (Yongi Cho and Co.) or the facts of a matter are so gross and so heinous that once they are made public, the leaders have no option but to say something in that regard. Otherwise they may indeed lose ‘their’ people.
Compensation may have been paid to some, and the media may have dealt with the issue with various expose’s, but where are the victims today Bev? Are they able to “live their best life now” – are they still in fellowship in another church some decades later Bev, or have they thrown the Bible and all that it stands for, out of their lives forever?
You need to look well beyond the glitz and glamour of Hillsong Bev, and see the bright lights of the New Jerusalem – that’s the eternal destiny of those of us who have “got a life” – it’s eternal life and that is what we want, not the worldlyness of Hillsong and its false New Age hype and money raking deception.
You can have “your best life now” theology Bev – decent people don’t want it, don’t need it and they would have to compromise everything they have learnt in their Christian lives to get it. They would have to exchange the truth of God for a lie.
Maybe you need to “get a life” Bev – maybe you need to go shopping at a different store tomorrow morning, otherwise you could end up being the best dressed “store dummy” in town – and all with ‘pastor’ Brian’s blessing on you for doing it…
Mirages usually occur in the minds of people who are in the middle of a (spiritual?) desert and who are thirsting for water. My Bible tells me that water is freely available Bev, but you won’t find it at Hillsong or any of its cloned operations…
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.”
(Revelation 22:17)
that’s disappointing. this video is blocked before i even had a chance to watch it..
nfg
NFG – Fortunately the audio is transcribed underneath the video.
CW, i’ll read through it. thanks..
nfg
” […] this video is blocked before i even had a chance to watch it.”
hillsong are very, very touchy about people analysing what they do, aren’t they? If one didn’t know better, one would suspect that they have something to hide: perhaps they are nervous that their house-of-cards theology will be exposed. If their teaching can’t stand the light of day, how much could it possibly be worth?
And Isn’t it strange that Brian Houston claims to speak on behalf of God, with words that come from God, and yet it is not God who has the copyright, but rather hillsong. That doesn’t seem quite right, does it? Maybe Brian is claiming copyright because he is speaking nonsense out of his own vain imaginings, and God has nothing to do with it.
TF what you said make me think of this passage. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5%3A17-20&version=KJV
So many stop at verse 17. Very next verses state “all things are from God”, we are given “the ministry of reconciliation”, “we are ambassadors for Christ”.
What is an alleged representative of Christ doing withholding so much information about their faith?
If all things are from God why are they withholding what they (supposedly) received from God to other people?
How can an ambassador represent their kingdom if they’re preventing others from learning about their messages about the Kingdom of God fully and in-context?
Surely a genuine, spirit-filled preacher of God wouldn’t be using the Gospel solely for personal gain… would he?
TF. I was on the host team for about a year and a half at Hillsong SA. and one of my duties (besides smiling and welcoming people to church with a positive attitude…can you hear the sarcasm?? Please do.) I was always asked to not let people record video’s of what happens during a service on their mobile phones. I had to walk up the person and ask them (with a warm and friendly smile on my face) to please stop recording since it was against the church policy.
My team leader then said we had to do this to ensure that Hillsong does not receive any bad press since their were always people who wanted to slam the church with bad press…
I was so brainwashed back then that I listened and obeyed without question.
I thank God Almighty for opening my eyes to the truth about Hillsong SA and Hillsong globally!
CW – I checked out her Facebook and ‘Hillsong SA’ means South Africa…
That’s interesting. The email address is Australian.
Maybe her Hillsong experience was in South Africa, but she left and moved over here? Angelique can you confirm?
“My team leader then said we had to [prevent people recording videos of what happens during a service on their mobile phones] to ensure that Hillsong does not receive any bad press since their were always people who wanted to slam the church with bad press…”
That information is quite revealing, Angelique: if we compare your team leader’s directive to the words of Jesus – “For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.” – it is self-evident that hillsong are not doing what is true, and that their works have not been carried out in God. Even those who are not Christians understand that it is the corrupt cults that take great pains to avoid scrutiny by outsiders.
Of course, the leadership of hillsong can do their level-best to conceal what they are up to, and they can skulk about in the dark to that end, but they cannot hide from the One who will judge them for what they do. It seems that either they have failed to take this into account, or that they simply have no fear of God. Whichever is the case, they are going to get a very rude awakening one day…
TF: Interesting clip from a Hillsong ‘mystery shopper’. Recording device and all.
approx. 1.40 “it was just filled with this energy..”
So off the street, not even hearing a single word of preaching etc. a non-Christian can sense what is claimed to be “spiritual”. Hillsong’s music therefore *cannot* be spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
approx. 3.30 “the weirdest thing about the experience was hearing the Christian people sitting behind me, and every time the word Jesus was spoken of they felt the need to hum or growl…. Jesus mmm… Jesus mmmmm”
That definitely sounds like they were hypnotised! One of the fruits of the (Holy) Spirit is self-control! (Galatians 5:22-23)
“every time the word Jesus was spoken of they felt the need to hum or growl…. Jesus mmm… Jesus mmmmm
That definitely sounds like they were hypnotised!”
or worse, maybe even chanting..
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the hillsong church service is “seeker sensitive gen 2”. just repackaged & refined with more bells & whistles.. a big commercial complete with audience participation, soliciting money to keep gas in brian’s harley..
nfg
Bev said “[…] Move on!!”
And, ironically enough, it looks like it is in fact Bev herself who has had to “move on”. Yes Ladies and Gentlemen, after two very brief comments, neither of which had any substance, Bev has apparently thrown in the towel.
Bev would have us believe that she serves the same God who said “See, I am doing a new thing”, but, sadly, she herself has barely got out of the blocks before running out of ideas. It seems that there is no evidence at all of the Holy Spirit’s creativity at work in her thinking or her life, and she is limited to recycling the same tired old lines that hillsong apologists invariably trot out here in defence of that sad cult and its pathetic overseers.
What’s wrong Bev? Didn’t Brian Houston teach you anything about apologetics? Didn’t he pray for you so that you would be filled with the Holy Spirit? Can’t you mount any defence of what you believe in? Can’t you explain your position? If not, then why are you giving your money to Brian and Bobby, Bev? Where’s the return on investment for you? What exactly do you have to show for your “tithing”, apart from the fact that you have to run away and hide when you are confronted with the hard truths of Scripture, which you clearly find so unpalatable?
You are just like your master, Bev: Brian Houston has to hide within the walls of his “church”, because he can’t handle the real world. Just look at the hammering he is currently getting on social media, where he presents for all the world as a startled rabbit that is transfixed in a spotlight’s blinding glare. (Of course, we know that Brian Houston is not really a rabbit – rabbits have a much higher IQ than Brian does).
I can relate to this a bit. Initially I was excited about Hillsongs Church in Germany but later on I got out of it after going there for three months. I can clearly feel that they preach very easy Gospel and not true rich biblical teachings.
@Austin. @HillsongChurchWatch.
Hillsong SA means Hillsong South Africa. When I first attended Hillsong here it was called Hillsong Cape Town (Hillsong CPT).
When Hillsong opened up a campus in Pretoria. They changed the name to Hillsong SA.
I left Hillsong South Africa on 1 June 2014 this year. After being their for four years.
I don’t have an Australian email address….
And I did move to Australia. Am sure it’s a beautiful country however I really Love Cape Town,South Africa.
God bless.
@Angelique – thanks for confirming that for us. I’m wondering if you could share some of the stuff that you saw and heard over that four year period? nothing too personal, but you must have had some things that stuck in your mind as being odd?
How about when the Houstons visited – I suppose the local leaders “rolled out the red carpet” for them? Treated them like royalty?
Thanks up ahead for any insights that you may feel free to share…
Which church do u attend now. I think im having the same experience
Where do you live, Eddie?
Chrurchwatcher!
Hey, I have to say that it is good that you think critically and watch out- as well as raising awareness.
Of course, Hillsong has a lot of downsides! But, I would say they have a lot of upsides too! Many of the talks Brian have given are excellent and Jesus Orientated.
I also feel like a lot of their music is a good source og worship!
So what I am wondering if is you say all of Hillsong teaching and Music is bad and pulls us away from Jesus?
“Of course, Hillsong has a lot of downsides! But, I would say they have a lot of upsides too!”
Actually, what hillsong has is backsides where their topsides should be.
Joel Houston explaining how he ‘realized’ Hillsong needed a location in New York City. Laughable.
“America was never really in our cards. But I felt it in my heart a number of years ago that God was stirring here,” he said. “I had a couple weeks off and I’d been to New York a number of times, always just for a day or two. So I came and spent a week just hanging out in the city, walking around. On the last day I was walking around and it started pouring rain. I ran and tried to find a cover under a construction awning. I was kind of stuck there, just waiting. I had this moment with God. I turned around and looked at the wall beneath this awning and I read this quote there by William Booth: ‘While there remains one dark soul, I’ll fight to the very end.’ That really spoke to me. I felt like God said it was time to do something in this city.”
http://goodnewsmag.org/2015/08/let-hope-rise/
“I felt it in my heart…. I had a moment with God… I felt like God said…”
http://apprising.org/2012/01/12/sola-experientia/
Not a word that gives impression any *thought* was used in making the decision. Feelings are not always reliable. They should be the compass not the map (bible/ rational decision making).
All part of their ‘Hillsong experientia’, which in sets itself up in opposition to the Bible.
HEBREWS 11:1-2
“Long ago God spoke to the fathers by the prophets at different times and in different ways. In these last days, He has spoken to us by His Son…”
Today, ‘God’ speaks to Hillsong through things such as William Booth quotes written on public walls. All so laughable.