Take note that Hillsong is STILL scheduling Rick Warren to speak at next year’s Hillsong Conference.
This man has been exposed into pressuring Christians to embrace Chrislam and the pagan Roman Catholic religion as legitimate Christian sects.
Christian News reports on American Christianity’s reaction to Rick Warren’s false call to unity,
Rick Warren’s Call for Christians to Unite With Catholics, ‘Holy Father’ Raising Concerns
In a new video, megachurch leader and author Rick Warren is calling for Christians to unite with Roman Catholics and “Pope Francis,” who Warren recently referred to as the “Holy Father”—a move that is raising concerns among Christians nationwide and is resulting in calls for Warren to repent.
Warren made the comments following his visit to the Vatican last month, where he spoke at an interfaith conference on the “Complementarity of Man and Woman.”
“We have far more in common than what divides us,” he said in the two-minute video released by the Catholic News Service on Wednesday, described as being an outline for “an ecumenical vision for Catholics and Protestants to work together to defend the sanctity of life, sex and marriage.”
“They would all say, ‘We believe in the Trinity; we believe in the Bible; we believe in the resurrection; we believe in salvation through Jesus Christ,” Warren asserted, speaking of the various denominations within Christianity, of which he included Roman Catholicism. “These are the big issues.”
The author of the bestselling book “The Purpose Driven Life” then sought to defend Catholics from those who take issue with the practice of seeking the intercession of Mary and the various deceased persons that have been sainted by the Vatican.
“Sometimes protestants think that Catholics worship Mary like she’s another god, but that’s not exactly Catholic doctrine,” Warren contended. “People say, ‘What are the saints all about? Why are you praying to the saints?’ And when you understand what they mean by what they’re saying, there’s a whole lot more commonality [that we have with Roman Catholics].”
“There’s still real differences—no doubt about that,” Warren stated. “But the most important thing is, if you love Jesus, we’re on the same team.”
He closed by speaking of his belief that Christians and Catholics serve as co-laborers for the cause of defending life and family.
“When it comes to the family, we are co-workers in the field in this for the protection of the sanctity of life, the sanctity of sex and the sanctity of marriage,” Warren said. “So, there’s a great commonality and there’s no division on any of those three.”
But Warren’s comments have raised concern from Christian leaders nationwide, who are now calling the Saddleback leader to repentance. Matt Slick of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM) repudiated each of Warren’s points.
“Sure, there are Catholics who love the real Christ, the one who died on the cross for our sins. That is not the problem,” he said. “The problem is the Roman Catholic Church’s false teachings concerning Mary and salvation.”
“Rick Warren says both the Catholics and the Protestants believe in the Bible. But, there is a significant difference between the Bible of the Protestants and the Roman Catholic Church, which has added seven books,” Slick wrote. “[T]here are numerous problems in the apocryphal books, such as the teaching of salvation by works [and] the offering of money for the sins of the dead.”
“Warren implies that both Protestants and Catholics have the same view of salvation,” he continued. “Though it’s technically correct to say that Catholics believe in salvation through Jesus Christ, they reject justification by faith alone in Christ alone. Instead, it teaches that good works of various kinds are necessary for salvation.”
The Christian apologist then pointed to several Roman Catholic teachings on Mary, mainly from the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC), such as that Mary “by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation” and that “[b]y asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the ‘Mother of Mercy,’ the All-Holy One.”
“Rick Warren has not only failed to recognize the problems in these serious areas, but he has lent his credibility as a Protestant pastor in support of the Roman Catholic Church,” Slick wrote. “This should never be done by any Protestant pastor who takes the Bible seriously. I must conclude that Mr. Warren does not take the word of God seriously and/or he does not understand the damnable teachings of Roman Catholicism regarding salvation.”
“Rick Warren needs to repent,” he said.
Source: By Heather Clark, Rick Warren’s Call for Christians to Unite With Catholics, ‘Holy Father’ Raising Concerns, Christian News, http://christiannews.net/2014/12/02/rick-warrens-call-for-christians-to-unite-with-catholics-holy-father-raising-concerns/, Published 02/12//2014. (Accessed 10/12/2014.)
and to use the term ‘subtle-back slide’ actually is generous & puts it mildly..
because to those unconcerned / undiscerning, they would view RW as pulling some little red ecumenical wagon around in front of the Body of Christ.
but to everyone discerning whos been paying attention, RW has been steering his ecumenical mack truck aimed head-on into the Body of Christ..
for RW to deny it & try to play it down is ludicrous,
Strange – that’s what Katherine kuhlman and other charismatic s were saying 30 & 40 years ago…
Now that “Father Tony” is dead and Copeland has gone back to flying aeroplanes, Rick Warren has had to step up to the plate and ask if anyone wants to “come home to Rome”. Anybody?
“for Catholics and Protestants to work together to defend the sanctity of life, sex and marriage.”
Seems ok to me. Makes sense.
But not to … Matt Slick??
Good grief. That angry old Calvinist?
He’s hardly representative of Christians. He should go spend some time with his daughter instead of frothing at the mouth over this.
He’s hardly representative of the ‘christian’ you prefer to adulate, Q. By the way, a real Christian wouldn’t make such a snide comment about his time with his daughter – sure of your facts there, mate?
Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.
You could be forgiven for thinking that “Q” might be Steve Rowe’s protege, and gets most of his “cues” from him. They do share a long blogging history.
Perhaps Q is in training to “swim the Tiber”?
Oh dear – sounds like Q is another disgruntled PK (pastor’s kid) who sees critiquing HS and C3 blogs as his main mission in life… Poor old Q – can’t see the forest for the trees again Q?
“Seems ok to me. Makes sense.”
You must have missed the verse in Proverbs that states: “There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end of that way is death” – despite the fact that the warning is actually stated twice.
i posted a link on this a few days ago, i dont think everyone has caught it. copelands’ typical word-faith mumbo jumbo:
“We know the devil is responsible for the attack on Tony’s life! He tried to stop this worldwide move of coming together in Jesus as one. Too late, devil! THE BRIDGE IS ALREADY BUILT! IT’S A LOVE BRIDGE—A BRIDGE THAT WILL NEVER FAIL. And, Gloria and I, and all in this ministry, are thrilled to stand strong on THE BRIDGE that grace built—through Tony Palmer.”
copelands’ typical butcher of Scripture:
“The unity of the faith—not doctrines. Our doctrines differ. Our faith is in Jesus of Nazareth, Son of the living God!”
i foresee someone holding more meetings.. even “IN HONOR OF TONY”..
in addition to RW driving his mack truck.
Perhaps the Pope will make Tony into a saint???
“Perhaps the Pope will make Tony into a saint???”
thor, yes that would get some mileage for the “pope & protestants together” crowd..
then someone in bill johnson’s group will start getting ‘visitations’ from ‘tony’..
eventually tony’s picture will probably make it onto a new brand of frozen pizzas somewhere.. “an image of mary is guaranteed to appear, on the crust of every pie”.
@NFG – Well, back in Bible times, NFG – it was “Pharisees and Sadducees together” – and it still is! But now they call themselves “Catholics and (apostate) Evangelicals Together” – all roads lead to Rome, my father used to say, and he was right…
Well yes, that’s a distinct possibility too NFG – ‘Tony’ could well manifest inside the ‘glory cloud’.
There’s a strange interpretation of “the cloud of great witnesses” (Hebrews 12:1) by the NAR mob – they claim that when it manifests, they will be able to see all of the ‘witnesses’ from the OT saints, right through the NT saints, and right down to poor old Mrs Brown, the church organist, who only passed away last month…
What a preposterous and erroneous interpretation of that scripture… There’s no such thing in my mind, that exists – you could easily interpose the word ‘crowd’ as this passage in no way implies that there is a specific ‘cloud of witnesses’ waiting to manifest itself inside an NAR church, or any other church for that matter.
The ‘great cloud of witness’ is a figurative grouping of all the faithful down through the ages, but the Bible does not teach us that this ‘cloud’ can be seen by anyone on Earth- even if they do claim that they can “bring heaven down to Earth” that cloud of witnesses won’t be coming – not until Jesus returns at the second coming…
thor, yes, mike bickle will probably position one of his groups (joseph company or joel’s army or the willy wonka club) standing on some mountain to meet & greet them..
thor, one of the best bobby “con-man” conner videos ive seen.. he brings up the nar “cloud of witnesses” you mentioned.. conner is the baby genius who claims he got his 1st prophecy “while still in his mothers womb”. bobby flexing his imagination muscles..
1:00 – 14+ pilgrim angels unemployed since the 18th century
1:30 – cloud of witnesses
1:45 – mantles
2:00 – grave-sucking trip to germany
4:20 – portals
5:20 – a visitation from Jesus
nar ‘churches’ must be as gullible as it gets.. nfg
“thor, yes, mike bickle will probably position one of his groups (joseph company or joel’s army or the willy wonka club) standing on some mountain to meet & greet them…”
Shades of Miller and the early SDA’s – another cult following in the making… What goes around comes around – these people will be looking in every direction, but Jesus says “don’t look for me in the inner chambers, or out there in far flung places.
He was in the villages and the towns and visited Jerusalem every year for the feasts. He said ” I taught you openly in the synagogues and in the Temple” John 18:20 (no secret doctrines or practices for the true believers…)
“these people will be looking in every direction”
saddest thing of all is, they dont even have to go looking anymore.. i saw another ‘church’ (affiliated with david e taylor, big surprise surprise) whose pastor said every member in his church has seen Jesus.. this nar group have really lost it.
“(no secret doctrines or practices for the true believers…)”
speaking of that did you catch what bobby said at the end: “He’s looking for a mature ppl to give them this hidden wisdom”. the entire nar group seems to be falling away the farthest, the fastest.. that ship is sinking.
Thanks for pointing that out NFG – Paul said:
“18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God…” 1 Corinthians 1:18 – 24
The NAR people are seeking both ‘signs’ and ‘wisdom’ so called. Many of the early Gnostics were Greeks who had imbibed of the Mystery Schools of their day, but these places taught human wisdom, disguised as a kind of spirituality.
The same kind of material comes from the Copelands, when they teach on what they call “the higher life” – pure Gnostic ideas, based on modern Hyper Faith. You can have “the higher life”, but you must leave “the lower life” (one of pain, suffering and persecution, apparently) behind – and don’t forget to confess all the right scriptures each day, just make sure that you’ll get there… in the end.
That’s where that kind of idea ends up – the proverbial ‘carrot on a stick’ but the donkey never gets to the carrot – ever. If that’s not a twisted and convoluted works based doctrine, then I don’t know what is. These ideas come from those people who believe the original lie of the Garden:
“You shall be as God, knowing good and evil…” Genesis 3:5. That’s the fruit that hangs brazenly on the Hillsong tree – the wrong tree…
So did you edit out Brian Houston’s concern, that the headline was expressed by Houston?
” Brian Houston of Hillsong Church expressed alarm about Warren’s “subtle backslide into Catholicism” and claimed that his concern is shared by Christians nationwide. ” http://m.aleteia.org/en/religion/article/megachurch-pastor-rick-warren-joins-pope-francis-in-support-of-common-mission-5887178068459520
Or are that woman’s articles chock full of misinformation, just like these ones: hillsongchurchwatch.com