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(EDIT 29/04/2015: We have uploaded another Hillsong document which is a tithing envelope titled:
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It comes with an out of context scripture from Malachi 3:10 [NKJV]. It is in this context where Malachi curses anyone who withholds their tithe to “God’s House” or “storehouse”. You can see this Hillsong tithing envelope at the bottom of this article.)
Hillsong released a statement in response to this A Current Affair report:
Hillsong: The multi-million dollar “crazy cult”
Not only did Hillsong issue to Senator Nick Xenophon mob-like threats, apparently “the vast majority of Australians” see the ‘A Current Affair’ report as “nothing more than tabloid trash.” So in response to the minority in Hillsong who read and believe “tabloid trash,” Hillsong writes:
Statement by Hillsong Church on A Current Affair story April 21, 2015
There was no factual basis whatsoever to the story on A Current Affair about Hillsong Church, and the program made no attempt to contact us to get the facts – or even hear our perspective – before airing this piece of fiction. The movie “Let Hope Rise” is being produced by an outside production company who approached us, and Hillsong Church has not invested one cent into this movie. Furthermore, we operate like any other church financially and support people pastorally across the world. This story was yet again, nothing more than tabloid trash and we believe the vast majority of Australians view it as such. It is disappointing that Senator Nick Xenophon, (who presents himself as a champion of the people) has cooperated with such stories for at least the third time. It is poor behaviour and worth noting by church-going voters and people at large in South Australia, who rightly expect their elected representatives to make comments based on factual information rather than conjecture.
Source: Hillsong, Statement by Hillsong Church on A Current Affair story April 21, 2015, http://hillsong.com/media/statement-by-hillsong-church-on-a-current-affair-story-april-21-2015. (Accessed 23/04/2015.)
There is a lot to extract from this statement. Especially the plethora of fallacious arguments and lack of evidence to back up Hillsong’s claims. However, more people seem to be sharing their experiences or insights into the corruption of the Hillsong cult.
This an insightful comment from a former AOG pastors wife:
My mate Tanya Levin did a brilliant job on ACA this week. She’s speaking again about the revenue raising juggernaut that is Hillsong ahead of the release the mega-church’s new Hollywood movie.
In my former life I was for a time an AoG (ACC) pastor’s wife. Even 25 years ago, Brian Houston was recognised in the movement as the one to watch. I can tell you that pastors of churches all around Australia dreamed of being able to count on collections like the ones Brian garnered. Over time Brian’s formula for getting folks to empty their pockets – a complex and emotionally powerful mix of music and clever sales patter with lashings of Jesus – was replicated in hundreds of financially struggling churches around the country and, eventually, around the world. As Tanya so beautifully puts it in this clip, “From London to Cape Town to Copenhagen the message is the same – give, give, give, give, give.”
Although the ACA team was forbidden to film the plea for money, I can tell you that the section of the ‘service’ specifically designed to predispose you to giving generously, runs for about 15 minutes and is the culmination of a cleverly orchestrated, high-production value, highly emotionally manipulative stage show. Those of us in the AoG who despised Houston’s methods had a name for it: fleecing the folk. Nobody does it better than Brian. The report estimates in 2012 Hillsong ‘earned’ $72 million dollars in tax-free income, only a tiny fraction of which is spent on charity work. These guys are crooks, plain and simple, and the Australian public is paying for it. Glad to see Nick Xenophon is trying to increase public accountability of this secretive money printing organisation.
Source: Jane Douglas, FaceBook, https://www.facebook.com/jane.douglas.90/posts/805714359512544, Published 22/04/2015 at 13:03. (Accessed 23/04/2015.)
Her views are worth considering Hillsong states that they “operate like any other church financially and support people pastorally across the world.”
Really? Do you want to know why those people in the ACA Report give 20% at Hillsong?
Does your church put out giving envelopes to you that are like this? Would you feel comfortable putting your credit card number on the back of the envelope where everyone can see it?
* Tithing is an anti-Christian teaching that uses Malachi 3:8-11 to teach that if you do not tithe, God will curse you.
* This envelope was collected from Hillsong and given to us at the beginning of January 2015.
Hilarious. Houston Inc actually believe they can influence voters in SA and elsewhere with their tiny church. Federal and state MP’s take note….this ‘church’ is trying to deeply involve themselves in ‘worldly’ affairs and pretend they can influence millions of voters. [ha!] Brian..Easy Rider…time to move on buddy.
hmmmmmmmm. You really think they have no influence?
hillsong is just 1 big money making machine, raking in filthy lucre as fast as they can..
no doubt about it, nfg
That response is just what I would expect from a cult like Hillsong. They are sounding like the Church of Scientology.
I’m quite surprised that the response was all over at the Churchwatch Central website not here! I’ll just put a condensed version of mine here.
It is time for Hillsong supporters to STOP responding via reflex emotional responses and time to START seriously studying whether what is being said is true or not. Jesus said love God with all your *MIND*, not just your heart, soul, strength (Matthew 22:37)- he did not say (as Hillsong claims) your wallet.
Yes Hillsong is correct in its claim that God loves a cheerful giver (2 Corinthians 9:7), and that we should love our neighbour as ourself (Matthew 22:39), but how much time does Hillsong teach about ALL the other aspects of the Christian life? As a RESULT of faith in Jesus Christ alone Christians SHOULD turn from person sin/ what pleases the world (not God), focus our minds upon Heaven and grow in holiness over time. e.g. Ask yourself this question: does Hillsong ever preach about the need for repentance (turning away from/ changing mind about) sin? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians+3%3A1-17&version=KJV
Where does it say on that envelope that you will be cursed if you don’t give?
It doesn’t – it’s their keynote speakers Pat Mesiti and Robert Morris who make that outrageous claim.
I feel that as soon as any mega church organisation earns over a certain amount, like the rest of us strugglers, it should pay a percentage of taxation. This would be contributing to our economy. OTHERWISE, it should be forced to provide a larger percentage to nominated charity organisations, not necessarily affiliated with the organisation. So that, groups like Hillsong cannot channel the money into one of their own charities. It just pains me.
Which charity does HS give to? (Other then their own?) What % of church income ($72m) goes to charity? If HS are encouraging people to give 10-20% in tithes & offerings, then my ‘simple maths tells me ..giving should be between 10-20% ($7.2m to $14.4m). Are they doing this? If yes, then they are being generous…if not, this is another problem need attending to.
Is News Ltd considered tabloid trash too?
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/hillsong-church-to-release-let-hope-rise-in-2015/story-fniym3t1-1227329751614
A good review for the movie:
“chrishanj
This was stunning, not produced by our church, but probably told the story the way we couldn’t have and in a way that was stunning and made it all about what it’s all about JESUS. Repost @joelabell ・・・ Just took all our Kingdom Builders to the movies to see the Hillsong movie – Let Hope Rise. So proud of our team and the way in which @hillsongunited was presented. Can’t wait for everyone to see this in September!!”
So the reports are true – the movie was nothing but lies and propaganda.
Ah..that would be the ‘kingdom of houston’ builders.
Obviously ALL the profits would go to charity?
“A good review for the movie”
newtaste, U need to take off your rose colored glasses. There is no such thing as ‘a good review’, for a bunch of lies.
Hoyts, Event Cinemas and Village all have the movie listed on their websites, so they would seem to have plans to exhibit it when it is released.
http://hoyts.com.au/movies/2015/hillsong_let_hope_rise.aspx
http://eventcinemas.com.au/movie/Hillsong-Let-Hope-Rise
http://villagecinemas.com.au/movies/hillsong__let_hope_rise
Are you getting free tickets for all this Hillsong movie “spruiking”, Newtaste?
Great scalping opportunity? If they send you enough, they will be able to declare the movie “sold-out”, and add another claim to spiritual world domination. On another note, here’s some insight into the “sensual” vapidness of Hillsong worship.
Who is the object of your worship, Newtaste? Christ or Hillsong?
https://faithfulstewardship.wordpress.com/2014/08/19/discernment-in-music-oceans-where-feet-may-fail/
From that link:
“This is a point that each of the disciples, including Peter, would be tested again, and fail again.”
Chris Rosebrough stated during his review last week of a Bill Hybels sermon that Jesus didn’t test anyone because He is God so knew the heart of everyone.
23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name. 24 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. 25 He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person. John 2:23-25 (NIV)
Who do you believe, Rosebrough or this other guy?
“Who is the object of your worship, Newtaste? Christ or Hillsong?”
Newtatse hangs off the garment of Brian Houston…
When are you starting your Brian Houston Fan Club, Newtatse?
You guys are doing your twisted best promoting the movie with your stalking of Brian Houston and Hillsong. Your mysterious hooded “Hillsong insider” image has a similarity to the poster for the recently axed CBS police drama Stalker. http://tv-series.watch/posters/watch-stalker-4791.jpg
Newtaste – Was that you over at C3ChurchWatch stalking Phil Pringle re his colic problems??
So it was colic. Thanks for the confirmation. You know him well. I’ve never met him.
— You guys are doing your twisted best promoting the movie with your stalking of Brian Houston and Hillsong.
“n”, why do you stalk this website?? do you enjoy being a hypocrite??
CW..why does commenter ‘newtaste’ fawn over brian houston so much but can’t wait to pour out his ‘distaste’ for Phil pringle? Pringle is best mates with brian. It would be a very awkward meeting indeed with brian, phil and newtaste in the same room. Perhaps newtaste dreams that brian would replace pringle with him? Could this be a ‘Bro-mance’ from someone who obviously has no recognisable status in hillsong? It is getting a bit creepy.
The million dollar question @thetruth. Phil and Brian are close friends, and Newtaste refuses to acknowledge it. That’s his prerogative of course, but it’s strange that he cannot see the striking similarities between the two ministries. Just look at the “joint venture” speakers they both have at their conferences, for starters.
joint venture = a commercial enterprise undertaken jointly by two or more parties which otherwise retain their distinct identities.
And we would emphasize the word “commercial” in that definition. $$$$
@TheTruth – Idolatry does weird things to people.