“If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.” 1 Corinthians 13:1-3
The sad thing is that Brian Houston clings to a love that no Christian should desire. He cannot claim to love when he abuses words and uses people to further his own name and reputation. In this article we will be delving into Brian Houston’s clarification on his blog article earlier this year titled, “Do I love Gay People?”
Because we know what he believes and how he uses people to his advantage, what he says overall in this article rings hollow. He lies, twists scripture and speaks from both sides of his mouth to please absolutely everyone for his own selfish purposes. And when a so-called “minister” does this, there is no credibility. People do not see love.
And no right-minded person would want that love. So to make the words of a clanging cymbal bearable, we decided to have fun and use Captain Subtext to pick apart what he’s actually saying in his blog article.
THE BLOG IN BRIAN’S EYE
He writes,
I love and care about people – from all walks of life; people with various beliefs, ethics, perspectives and lifestyles.
Translation: I’m only saying this so you agree with me. Please accept this candy comment from a stranger. Now get in my Hillsong bus.
I care that humanity and some within the Christian church can be so quick to alienate and ostracise others who are different than them; those who live differently, think differently, speak differently.
Translation: Hopefully you didn’t pick up the fact that I don’t love and care about Christians. They’re getting in the way of my movement. You must alienate and ostracize them like I do.
I also live by my own convictions, and hold to traditional Christian thought on gay lifestyles and gay marriage.
Translation: Since I can’t let the media and Christians pin me down on anything (or else I’ll get in trouble), I’m still trying to figure out what my own convictions are. I’ve got to sound like a conservative Christian somehow even though I’ve been bagging them out during my entire ministry… That’s it! I’ll say I’m a traditional Christian!
I do believe God’s word is clear that marriage is between a man and a woman.
Translation: Even though I don’t want to believe this, I have got to say what Christians want me to say, otherwise our music sales may suffer. (I hope no one browses my past sermons and discovers how absent or vague my messages are on this topic.)
The writings of the apostle Paul in scripture on the subject of homosexuality are also clear, as I have mentioned in previous public statements.
Translation: Even though I reject:
- Paul’s Gospel,
- Paul’s Jesus,
- Paul’s teaching on the Holy Spirit,
- Paul’s teaching on the church governance and the pastoral office/responsibilities,
- Paul’s teaching on church structure,
- Paul’s teaching on what a Christian is,
- Paul’s teaching on faith, hope and love,
- Paul’s teachings on the end times,
- Paul’s teaching on family,
- Paul’s teaching on finances,
- Paul’s teaching on women in the pastoral office,
- Paul’s teaching on godly behaviour and sexuality.
I will give the allusion that I believe Paul’s teachings on homosexuality.
Hillsong Church welcomes ALL people but does not affirm all lifestyles.
Translation: That’s what the Apostle Paul would say, right? Because we’re “traditional!”
Put clearly, we do not affirm a gay lifestyle…
Translation: …Hehe. I said “we,” not “I.” We’ve emphatically claimed it’s not our job to change anyone. We do the affirming, God does the changing.
… and because of this we do not knowingly have actively gay people in positions of leadership, either paid or unpaid.
Translation: So the collective “we” might not know, but “I” know… And we wouldn’t tell them to change their sinful lifestyles anyway. After all, Jesus didn’t condemn homosexuality, right?
I recognise this one statement alone is upsetting to people on both sides of this discussion, which points to the complexity of the issue for churches all over the world.
Translation: Because there’s no right answer.
I love and accept people on a personal level and if I lived next to a gay couple I would treat them with the same embrace I would any other neighbour because – surprise, surprise – not all my neighbours think like me.
Translation: See? I AM affirming! [I hope no one realizes that having a gay next door neighbors is NOT the same thing as having gay members in leadership positions within the church].
Everyone has the right to pursue happiness.
Translation: Unless you gain happiness from critiquing me when I twist the Bible. Aka: Bloody Christians.
I may totally disagree with you on what will bring people true happiness, and I will always teach and preach according to my personal convictions and the teachings of scripture…
Translation: Because clearly my opinion is much more important that Scripture, and the scriptures would agree with me. Don’t you Scriptures? DON’T YOU!?!?
…but I cannot make other people’s choices for them – and quite frankly, I don’t want to.
Translation: Even though my job as Pastor is to call out unrepentant sinners, I won’t do it because it conflicts with my personal convictions. Isn’t that right Apostle Paul? ISN’T IT!?!
That’s not my job. Even God created humanity with a free will.
Translation: It really is my job to call out homosexuality as a sin, but if I do that then I’ll become unpopular with the world.
The western world is seemingly moving quickly toward gay marriage being universally legalised,
Translation: The world is moving quickly toward gay marriage since Hillsong has refused to preach on this since or take a stance since it’s beginnings. (A bit like my friend Guglimucci.)
… so how does that affect us as a church, and how does it affect the various individual members of Hillsong Church?
Translation: Well the great news is there aren’t that many real Christians left in Hillsong church! So soon we can affirm the homosexual lifestyles. And for “individuals” of Hillsong church, you think you have rights? *cough*Tanya Levin*cough*
Gay marriage is already legalised in many places where Hillsong Church exists, and we are functioning well and without impediment.
Translation: Like I said, find a sermon where we’ve ever preached a biblical message on homosexuality.
Everyone is welcome at Hillsong church except for known predators, [*]
Translation: * Except my serial pedophile father.
… those who are disruptive, [*]
Translation: * Except me whenever I put my foot in my mouth and lie publicly in my media statements. (That’s not disruptive, that was a fumble.)
or those who have adversarial agendas. [*]
Translation: *Myself, my preaching friends (Joel Osteen, Mark Driscoll, Rick Warren, Stephen Furtick, Joyce Meyer, TD Jakes, Joseph Prince, etc.), my family and my leadership excluded.
I would like to add that everyone is welcome at Hillsong church except critics, haters, anyone who actually reads and believes their Bibles- Oh! And of course ANYONE who reads the slanderous, spineless, faceless, pompous, finger-pointing material on the evil ChurchWatch sites.
So if you are gay, are you welcome at Hillsong Church? Of course!
Translation: Of course! We financially fleece everyone equally! Lying and stealing from you is a sign that we love you.
All sinners are welcome, and that includes you, me, and everyone else.
Translation: Dropping the sin card and including myself in this makes me and Hillsong look humble, imperfect, less religious, pious and embracing differences on the standard of imperfection.
You are welcome to attend, worship with us,
Translation: Because Hillsong and non-Christians worship the same god.
[…] and participate as a congregation member
Translation: Because Hillsong and non-Christians serve the same god.
[…] with the assurance that you are personally included and accepted within our community.
Translation: Because our community doesn’t give a s#!+ what you believe anyway. #LoveGodLoveNeaigbor #JudgeNot
But (this is where it gets vexing),
Translation: Because I don’t ever like dealing with issues (or being black and white).
[…] can you take an active leadership role? No.
Translation: Accept the one’s that I already know are in leadership. (And if you are a homosexual in Hillsong leadership reading, please keep your lifestyles discreet for me sake. Please keep our trojan hor– um- I mean, Hillsong image in tact as we bully encourage other churches to join our movement.)
This won’t make everyone happy
Translation: Because our standard is happiness! 😀
[…] and to some, this stance may even be seen as hypocritical.
Translation: Hypocritical meaning that for once, we are giving a somewhat biblical defense for once in our ministry on something that we really do not want to do. (Sorry other master!)
We are a gay welcoming church but we are not a church that affirms a gay lifestyle.
Translation: But we do affirm Justin Beiber’s reckless, raunchy lifestyle! And THAT’S not being hypocritical!
I began this conversation with, “I love and care about people – from all walks of life; people with various beliefs, ethics, perspectives and lifestyles.
Translation: Except Calvinists. Bloody Calvinists!
[…] I care that humanity and some within the Christian church can be so quick to alienate and ostracise others who are different than them; those who live differently, think differently, speak differently.”
Translation: I can’t believe I just said that! Haha!
Bobbie and I were in an elevator today with a Saudi Arabian woman dressed in Muslim attire.
Translation: See! This Saudi Arabian woman dressed in Muslim attire is a Christian too! She can’t help but practice her beliefs in our church. #I’llRiseWithYou
We had a conversation in those few moments and her face lit up with the biggest, warmest smile. As she left we said to each other, ‘what a lovely lady’.
Translation: That is because she didn’t cause a disruption by questioning us.
Does that mean I now endorse her religion? No it doesn’t,
Translation: Well I actually DO believe that the Muslim and the Christian “actually serve the same God. Allah to a Muslim; to us, Abba Father God.”
[…] but if she was my neighbour I would definitely invite her over for a cup of tea, or be there for her if she was in need.
Translation: Bending the knee to Muslims, homosexuals or anyone else apart from Christians is my specialty.
I care about people and yes, I do have gay friends.
Translation: Anyone can be my friend – as long as they don’t criticise me!
Jesus had many friends that angered the religious and brought him condemnation from many.
Translation: Don’t you like it how I just compared unrepentant homosexuals to “humble sinners” and Bible believing Christians to “self-righteous Pharisees?” That’s my Jesus! He doesn’t like Christians either!
He would be the same if His time on earth as a man was in our generation, confronted with the social issues we face and are forced to address today.
Carl Lentz translation: What Brian Houston meant to say was that Jesus didn’t DEAL or CONFRONT social or moral issues. He dealt with issues of the heart. Right Brian???
If God had wanted to condemn the world He would have sent a condemner. But He didn’t, He wanted to save the world so He sent a Saviour. John 3:17.
Translation: I’ll only reference the scripture and not quote it in case people get offended that the only time I actually handle God’s Word on this blog was grossly perverted.
And now that I have finished writing my blog post, I know the world will still misunderstand my words and intentions. No one understands me but I’ll try.
WELL THERE YOU GO
We had fun “translating” this blog piece by Brian Houston. As you can see through our jest, his lies and gimmicks are repulsive. If you do not think that this man is a repulsive and compulsive liar, all one needs to do is look at the scripture he twisted at the end of this blog article. Rather than preach the gospel, he in his shame not only hid it under a bushel, but perverted it to save his name and reputation.
Here is the scripture in context:
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.” For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.” Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.” John 3:16-18
Below is Brian Houston’s statement in it’s entirety.
Do I Love Gay People?
I love and care about people – from all walks of life; people with various beliefs, ethics, perspectives and lifestyles. I care that humanity and some within the Christian church can be so quick to alienate and ostracise others who are different than them; those who live differently, think differently, speak differently.
I also live by my own convictions, and hold to traditional Christian thought on gay lifestyles and gay marriage. I do believe God’s word is clear that marriage is between a man and a woman. The writings of the apostle Paul in scripture on the subject of homosexuality are also clear, as I have mentioned in previous public statements.
Hillsong Church welcomes ALL people but does not affirm all lifestyles. Put clearly, we do not affirm a gay lifestyle and because of this we do not knowingly have actively gay people in positions of leadership, either paid or unpaid. I recognise this one statement alone is upsetting to people on both sides of this discussion, which points to the complexity of the issue for churches all over the world.
I love and accept people on a personal level and if I lived next to a gay couple I would treat them with the same embrace I would any other neighbour because – surprise, surprise – not all my neighbours think like me. Everyone has the right to pursue happiness. I may totally disagree with you on what will bring people true happiness, and I will always teach and preach according to my personal convictions and the teachings of scripture, but I cannot make other people’s choices for them – and quite frankly, I don’t want to. That’s not my job. Even God created humanity with a free will.
The western world is seemingly moving quickly toward gay marriage being universally legalised, so how does that affect us as a church, and how does it affect the various individual members of Hillsong Church? I believe we can quite comfortably continue to function within that environment, presuming we are not forced through legislation to compromise our own convictions. Gay marriage is already legalised in many places where Hillsong Church exists, and we are functioning well and without impediment.
Everyone is welcome at Hillsong church except for known predators, those who are disruptive, or those who have adversarial agendas.
So if you are gay, are you welcome at Hillsong Church? Of course! You are welcome to attend, worship with us, and participate as a congregation member with the assurance that you are personally included and accepted within our community. But (this is where it gets vexing), can you take an active leadership role? No.
This won’t make everyone happy and to some, this stance may even be seen as hypocritical. We are a gay welcoming church but we are not a church that affirms a gay lifestyle.
I began this conversation with, “I love and care about people – from all walks of life; people with various beliefs, ethics, perspectives and lifestyles. I care that humanity and some within the Christian church can be so quick to alienate and ostracise others who are different than them; those who live differently, think differently, speak differently.” Bobbie and I were in an elevator today with a Saudi Arabian woman dressed in Muslim attire. We had a conversation in those few moments and her face lit up with the biggest, warmest smile. As she left we said to each other, ‘what a lovely lady’. Does that mean I now endorse her religion? No it doesn’t, but if she was my neighbour I would definitely invite her over for a cup of tea, or be there for her if she was in need.
I care about people and yes, I do have gay friends. Jesus had many friends that angered the religious and brought him condemnation from many. He endorsed a humble sinner and condemned a self-righteous Pharisee. He would be the same if His time on earth as a man was in our generation, confronted with the social issues we face and are forced to address today.
If God had wanted to condemn the world He would have sent a condemner. But He didn’t, He wanted to save the world so He sent a Saviour. John 3:17.
Love,
Brian
Source: Brian Houston, Do I Love Gay People?, Hillsong.com, http://hillsong.com/collected/blog/2015/08/do-i-love-gay-people/#.VcGAyPmqqkp, Published 04/08/2015. (Accessed 05/08/2015.)
Poorly written, filled with grammatical errors and lies, and not funny. Don’t give up your day jobs.
You imply that there is a homosexual in Hillsong leadership. Is that all you have, a one line unsubstantiated allegation?
“filled with….lies”
I challenge you to enlighten us by pointing out those ‘lies.’
(Unless it is you who is the liar Newtaste.)
I’ll pick two.
“Hopefully you didn’t pick up the fact that I don’t love and care about Christians. They’re getting in the way of my movement. You must alienate and ostracize them like I do.”
Not correct. church watch really means that they think he doesn’t care about church watch – they feel unloved, though they’re not.
“Well I actually DO believe that the Muslim and the Christian “actually serve the same God. Allah to a Muslim; to us, Abba Father God.””
Houston has explained that, but church watch just ignores Houston’s explanations and clarifications (they lie) so they can continue to belittle him.
Sorry Newtaste, but the only things around here that are poorly written and filled with lies, are your posts!
“but church watch just ignores Houston’s explanations and clarifications”
why do u suppose Jesus didn’t have to constantly go back and give similar clarifications 2 cover His tracks ??
“Poorly written, filled with grammatical errors and lies, and not funny.”
Why do you mention funny? What is funny about Houston deceiving people?
Why do you constantly make excuses for Houston and Hillsong?
Is your memory that short Newtaste?!!!
http://standupforthetruth.com/2015/08/hillsong-issues-statement-8-months-after-worship-leader-announces-his-upcoming-homosexual-marriage/
“Poorly written, filled with grammatical errors and lies, and not funny.”
Are you discribing that awesome bestseller “You Need More Money!” ?
Folks, what can I say? That photo of Brian reminds me of the “Laughing Gnome” – it kind of says that he is laughing, grimmacing and smirking, totally believing his own bag full of lies, and that’s how deceivers become deceived and stay deceived.
He may have run out of puff lately, as there comes a point when you have told so many lies, that there are no more lies left to tell – and only smirks and grimmaces on offer…
I do hope and pray that one day soon, the Hill$ongers will wake up to themselves, and realise that Brian is running an entertainment company, which he has cleverly disguised as a ‘church’…
“I love and care about people – from all walks of life; people with various beliefs, ethics, perspectives and lifestyles.”
If Brian Houston ‘loves’ people, then why does he spread the lie of ‘New Testament tithing’ and fleece their money?
“I care about people and yes, I do have gay friends. Jesus had many friends that angered the religious and brought him condemnation from many. He endorsed a humble sinner and condemned a self-righteous Pharisee.”
If I remember rightly Newtase, the “sinner in the story was no longer a sinner, because he repented – the Pharisee did not!
“13 But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, the sinner!’
14″I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”
Luke 18:13, 14
So much for Brian’s exegesis of scripture – it’s pitiful to say the least… and Heaven help anyone who relies on Brian’s preaching to deliver them from sin and to salvation.
“He endorsed a humble sinner”
What is Brian Houston trying to say? That Jesus endorsed someone’s living in sin? What does Brian Houston mean by “endorsed?” When did Jesus go around “endorsing sinners?” Would Jesus “endorse” Brian Houston for his recent treatment of Tanya Levin?
PS: Newtaste – if you really want some bad spelling, poor grammar and (would you like some lies with that order sir,?) then you should try out this blog if the CW one bores you…
https://thorsanvil.wordpress.com/2015/10/08/exposing-the-goats-inside-the-goats-pen/
The devil came to steal, kill, and destroy. newtaste, the devil has stolen your mind.
It’s obvious you do not have the mind of Christ, you have the mind of Brian Houston.
Looks like Newtaste ‘went to church’ today – sorry, “went to Hill$ong” today – not church… whatever 🙂
Yes Woodsey, we need the mind of Christ, not the mind of Antichrist, and as we read God’s word, the Bible, our minds are renewed, but at places like Hill$ong, it seems like peoples minds are only brainwashed… They’re spoon fed motivational ans emotional rubbish, which they call a ‘sermon’ and then put it on a CD and sell it.
But there’s no real renewing of their minds, and so that Christ-like character never begins to emerge. It’s almost as if all of Brian’s “converts” are stillborn…
Houston makes it very clear that no matter who you are, your money is the same as everyone else’s and he would gladly sell or promise you whatever you like in order to make sure as much of it as possible goes his way…
Btw I think an interesting question for him would be does Brian affirm Sun Ho’s lifestyle as projected in her video clips (China Wine etc)?
“Btw I think an interesting question for him would be does Brian affirm Sun Ho’s lifestyle as projected in her video clips (China Wine etc)?”
Icarus – I think a better question would be:
“Has Bobby been taking any dancing lessons lately”???