Brian Houston is not only a false teacher, he is a liar – and he knows it.
Brian Houston’s opening message for his HillsongChannel is absolute proof he knows what he is saying and teaching is both false and misleading.
According to Brian Houston, his success in starting the HillsongChannel is because Brian had:
an “untainted heritage”, “growing up in a Ministry family, and in a Ministry family, I was surrounded by the things of God and church life”
an “outrageous ability to dream”
This is simply untrue – and Brian Houston knows it. This article will demonstrate that Brian Houston deceived his international audiences with his rewriting of Hillsong history and his family’s legacy/heritage.
BRIAN “OSMOSIS-ING” MOSES
In our link, you can hear Brian speaking about himself with an exaggerated enthusiasm, comparing himself to Moses. Moses had a staff, Brian had a dream.
1. Moses lead God’s people and witnessed miracles along the way because God wanted to fulfill his destiny.
2. Brian is now leading “God’s people” and witnessed miracles along the way because God wanted to fulfill his destiny.
Brian Houston is deliberately deceiving the crowds into believing he is some Moses-like figure where God put a dream in his heart and all Brian Houston had to do was believe.
He has been peddling this “dream-destiny-thingy” heresy for decades but we can confidently state that he does not believe it – he is promoting this same “dream-destiny-thingy” so he can dupe his listeners into believing his telling of the history of Hillsong. The proof becomes evident in Brian Houston’s true history.
Brian Houston went out of his way to present himself as “young Moses”, leading the way with an “untainted heritage” because he “grew up in a Ministry family.” It’s absolutely true that he grew up in a “ministry family”. What is not true is that his father was NOT a minister. His father was a criminal pedophile and a fraud.
The HillsongChannel or the PedophileChannel?
Yes, this is a confronting statement. But the truth behind Brian Houston’s “legacy” is confronting.
Frank Houston, Brian Houston’s father, was raping and molesting young boys throughout New Zealand and Australia.
Brian Houston should NOT have capitalized on his international audience to promote the ongoing lie about his family and his heritage. It was “Apostle” Frank Houston that started CLC/Hillsong.
And “Apostle” Frank Houston knew he was never fit or qualified to be an Apostle or Pastor of a church:
“In 1999, my father Frank Houston decided to step back from day-to-day running of his church, Sydney Christian Life Centre, and passed the baton of leadership on to me. What an honour for Bobbie and me to continue building on the foundations laid by my parents. It was also a tremendous responsibility as we were already pastoring Hills Christian Life Centre in Sydney’s north west. Today Hillsong Church continues what was started in 1977, with our two major worship centres, a city-wide network of cells, and contributing services and ministries all adding to the expansion of future generations.”
Source: Brian Houston, You Can Change the Future, pg. 122.
Yet at the Royal Commission into how Brian Houston handled his father’s affairs, he acknowledged this meeting:
“… my father retired in May 1999 from the senior pastor role, and the idea was that he was going to be an itinerant – it may or may not be relevant, but at the time it seemed very rushed, that he suddenly asked me if I would take on the church. Now, with hindsight, I think we know some of the reasons why that is. So in May of that year, 1999, I became the senior pastor of what we now call the city campus, but then it was Sydney Christian Life Centre, and for a period of maybe 18 months or two years we ran two very distinct churches, working in cooperation.
… I believe because he knew that things were coming to a head with the issues that we’re talking about here at the Commission.” Source: Brian Houston, Transcript (Day 88), Royal Commission (Case 18), pg. 54-55-6.
Houston starts his Moses comparison at 55:45 to 01:04:28 in the video linked here. It is disturbeding:
TRANSCRIPT
“….sandwiched between God’s salvation and God’s grace is calling and purpose. It’s one thing to live saved, knowing you’re going to Heaven, it’s another thing to lived called, He didn’t just save us, He called us, and that call to me represents what God puts in your hand, your gift, your talent, your work, your career, whatever it is that God has put in your hand.
And then purpose, purpose is what God puts in your heart. In Ecclesiastes, Chapter 3, it says this, it says, ‘that God gives us a divinely implanted sense of purpose’. [3:11 AMP]. My NKJ Bible says, ‘God puts eternity in our hearts’, but the Amplified describes ‘eternity’ as that implanted sense of purpose.
So using what’s in your hand, to fulfill what’s in your heart. Moses, he experienced that because when he was called by God to do something bigger than Moses was, his first response was, ‘how can I do that, who are you God, who am I, whose going to listen to me?’ And in Chapter 4, Exodus, verse 1, Moses says, “But suppose they will not believe me or listen to my voice; suppose they say, ‘the Lord has not appeared to you.’ So the Lord said to Him, ‘what is that in your hand?”[4:1-2 NKJV] All he had in his hand was a rod or a stick, and God was saying I and fulfill my purpose in your life, through what you’ve got in your hand. And for Moses, of course, there were much greater things to come, live the opening of the Red sea and so many other amazing things.
I wonder what you’ve got in your hand. A young Moses, God showed him he could use a stick, and hit a rock and something incredible would happen. I think of myself as a young man, of course I was in New Zealand where I grew up. We lived in a Government house, Government housing, in a small city right by Wellington, in New Zealand. And as I think about what was in my hand, I think about the fact that perhaps I had lated gift inside of me, but there was really no sign of that then. I never stood out as a child, or as a teenager, as a leader and the reality is, I don’t think I ever stood out at school.
What I did have, I think, was whatever God had put in me which was yet to be seen. I think at that point I had an untainted heritage, in other words I grew up in a Ministry family, and in a Ministry family, I was surrounded by the things of God and church life and so from the earliest age I can remember, in fact before I could remember, I wanted to serve Jesus, I wanted to be a preacher, I wanted to build a church, you know I wanted to preach the Gospel, I can’t remember a time when that’s not what I wanted to do with my life, which for me personally, has been a great advantage in life.
So I had that heritage, from which I think comes some wisdom along the way that you maybe inherit. But the other I had was this outrageous ability to dream. Concentration wasn’t my forte, it wasn’t my strong point, and so at school I would just dream, I would dream and I would dream and I would dream. I would sit in our church, which in those days, believe it or not, the 1960s, my church was only about three, four hundred people, but it was then the biggest church in the entire country.
So if you think about it in that context, they were kind of outrageous dreams. Sometimes you look backwards and you thing, ah yes, because it becomes your norm, but back then, I’m in what was the biggest church in the country where I grew up, three or four hundred people and I dreamed of preaching to thousands in arenas, I dreamed of preaching to thousands, I dreamed of travelling a long way. I used to dream of coming to Australia, believe it or not, I used to dream of Sydney, I used to dream about America and the United States and I used to dream about how great it would be one day to have the chance, even once, to go there.
I used to dream about building a church, I genuinely, as a little boy I used to dream, I’d dream, I’d dream, I’d dream in church, I’d dream of leading thousands of people to Christ. I believe that one of the things that God dropped in my hand was the ability to dream, and hopefully to dream dreams that were far bigger than I was. And so, with that I couldn’t have believed all that God had for me, but I never lost that ability to dream.
Of course, move right along, come to the 1980’s, we started our church, we talked about it a moment ago and we started it in a little school hall and when we stated though I had a dream. I remember a few years on, I dreamed about setting up a way for us to reach beyond ourselves and it involved conferences, and it involved worship, and it involved a college, and it involved so many of the things that we do today, and one of the things in particular, it involved was television. And this was before the days when really that was even a part of our world.
1993, I’ve talked about it, where I sat at my desk one time and I just dreamed. I took out a pen and just spent hours, and I wrote down the church that I see, I wrote it there and it was far different than the church we had. And the truth is that was 1993, by the time we were 20 years on from there and our church was 30 years on, rather than be just something that was just a dream and so far off that it was outrageous, it almost became like a description of Hillsong Church. So I did it again, and suddenly I dreamed and I began to talk about the church that I now see.
And I kinda think this is cool because that was two or three years ago how would I had known at the end of last year, that Matt Crouch the president of TBN would come, and start talking to us about a television channel, but one of the things I wrote just then was, ‘I see a church that is constantly innovative; a church that leads the communication of a timeless message through media, film, and technology. A church with a message beamed to people around the globe through their television screens, bringing Jesus into homes, palaces and prisons alike.’
Who could have believed that just a couple of years later, God could open such a door? You see I believe that God, He can do greater things that we could ever ask or hope. I told you, I used to dream, I used to dream about London actually and Europe, I used to dream about America, and one of the very first times I went there, I was only in my mid to late twenties. So Bobbie and I were married and we would have had by then at least two of our three children, and I just always believed that God was going to use me and use us to make a difference in that country, and then from that country to the rest of the world.
And I believed it, but I couldn’t see how it was going to happen. I was in L.A., I love L.A, I’ve always loved L.A. It’s just a massive, huge concrete jungle. And I remember sitting on a park bench, behind some cafés and some shops, on Sunset Boulevard, it’s called ‘Sunset Plaza’, and the car park at the back, car lot for those of you who live in that Country. There was a park bench and I sat there on the park bench, and there was just a huge fall away to just a huge valley, I mean just multitudes of people. I really didn’t know anyone in America, in the sense that I had maybe some acquaintances, but I had no real relationships or friends, and I had this deep sense, right there, right then as I dreamed that God would open doors for us there, that would make a difference around the world. I could not see how God could do it, but I just dreamed, I dreamed it and I believed it and I felt like the Holy Spirit put something in my heart.
And so, I have always been, in that sense, a dreamer. And all I’ve ever done in my whole life is use what God put in my hand, no matter how big or small it may seem, to fulfill what He’s put in my heart. And by doing that, and then just trusting God, I just find it’s amazing to see what God can do.”
20 thoughts on “Rewriting History: The Opening of HillsongChannel.”
thinkersaid:
Doesn’t Brian Houston think anyone uses Google? For search “Hillsong church history”, first result is from Wikipedia.
Hillsong Church…..*****was founded in 1983**** when the Sydney Christian Life Centre in Waterloo, New South Wales, established by Frank Houston, merged with the Hills Christian Life Centre in Baulkham Hills, New South Wales, established by his son, Brian Houston.
For people who will dismiss Wikipedia, read long quotes from overall positive towards Charismatic churches TEXTBOOK (remember: exceptionally high standards expected for academic textbooks in university libraries).
NOTE: Of these various mega-churches, the most influential has been Hillsong church. In August 1983, ****FRANK HOUSTON SENT HIS SON BRIAN***** to pioneer a church in the Hills district of North West Sydney.
thinkersaid:
Houston cannot possibly be taken seriously by any bible-believing Christian. Houston’s attempt to compare his life with Moses could almost amusing except that many people will fall for his propaganda.
Moses: adopted by Pharaoh’s daughter, a pagan therefore brought up learning about ancient Egyptian’s customs, beliefs etc. Some extremely immoral religious and cultural practices. (Exodus 2:1-10)
Moses: ran away after murdering an Egyptian man for beating a fellow Jew (Exodus 2:11-14). Hardly showing signs of church life and moral upbringing there.
Moses: had a stammer and tried to get out of speaking any way possible. (Exodus 4:11-17). Definitely no desire to speak from an early age and he even begged God to let his brother speak for him instead, angering God in the process.
Moses: wandered 40 years in the desert and wasn’t allowed to enter the Promised Land due to striking the rock, not speaking to the rock as God commanded Numbers 20:7-12).
TheOracleOfDrivelsaid:
Dreams? Really? It almost makes me sick when I hear those words. It’s as though, once uttered, those words ‘I dreamed…’ take on some kind of holy mantle, and are not open to scrutiny or challenge.
The number of times in scripture that God appeared to someone in any kind of dream or vision is very few, and the point is those dreams & visions were initiated by God for his own glorification and purposes, so that His will would be done through the human agency of God’s own choice. Paul’s conversion is a fine example of this.
Brian has it backwards – he wants to have his dreams, and expects that God will step in and fulfill them, thereby glorifying Brian. That is utterly perverse.
If he wants to talk about Hillsong history, then consider his own words, how he decided to locate his “church” in the Hills District of Northwest Sydney. He got the idea from the fact that Australia’s biggest Holden dealership [Tony Packard Holden – “Up the Windsor Rd from Baulkham Hills and let ME do it RIGHT for YOUUUU!!!”] was located there, and if they could prosper in that location, then why not Brian’s “church”?
I think all you need to know is right there in that candid revelation. Brian establishes a church based on an idea he got from a (arguably) successful Holden car dealer. It was all about demographics, marketing and money from the very start – not about preaching the Gospel to the lost.
Interesting aside: Tony Packard Holden turned out to be a house of cards, and Tony fled the country to avoid investigation and possible prosecution. That’s some legacy.
Icarussaid:
So Brian had “…an “untainted heritage”, “growing up in a Ministry family, and in a Ministry family, I was surrounded by the things of God and church life”?
So he’s still holding on to being completely in the dark about Frank’s nefarious activities, that many other people did have suspicions about? Really Brian, not a single clue? Your father was destroying young lives in NZ and Australia, and you had absolutely no idea? I don’t believe that for a second.
Dan B.said:
At 58:36, Houston says: “From the earliest stage I can remember, in fact from before I can remember, I wanted to serve Jesus. I wanted to be a preacher. I wanted to build a church. You know I wanted to preach the Gospel.”
– How can you remember from before you can remember? Sounds similar to Bobby Conner remembering the first time he prophesied was from within his mother’s womb, lol.
– Does Houston remember the first time he realized he could bilk people out of millions of dollars?
– Regardless his statements above are a complete lie, because Houston has never preached “the Gospel”, he’s only preached “the Prosperity gospel.”
And on Houston comparing himself to Moses, it’s the same narcissism Furtick displayed in your other article as Furtick compared himself to the Son of God.
In both cases, there is no comparison between them, and Moses or Jesus.
Houston and Furtick are once again shown to be narcissistic frauds who are puffed-up braggarts in their own minds, caring nothing about biblical Christianity but caring everything about their real gods…… $$$$ and making themselves look good to their target audiences.
TheOracleOfDrivelsaid:
Also, the point that seems to escape Brian, is that Moses was, by his own admission a flawed individual, and that it was by God’s doing, not Moses’, that Israel was brought up out of Egypt with great signs and wonders. It had nothing to do with Moses, and nothing to do with the rod in his hand. Brian incorrectly states that God empowered Moses to strike the rock to produce water. Moses was not commanded to do that, and it was an act of disobedience for which he paid by not being allowed to enter the promised land. God does do amazing things through people, but only the humble and obedient ones.
As for 2 Timothy 1:9, try reading it in context, which at bare minimum involves reading from 8 – 12a:
“Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God, 9who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began 10and which now has been manifested through the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, 11for which I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher, 12which is why I suffer as I do.”
The key points are: i. Do not be ashamed of the gospel; ii. Be prepared to suffer for it; iii. Salvation and calling are by God’s purpose and grace, and nothing to do with us, or what we ‘have in our hand’ (which isn’t mentioned in that passage); and iv. This passage is about The Gospel of Jesus Christ, not about God realizing peoples’ dreams through whatever talents they have.
Brian’s theology is 100% opposed to what scripture teaches us about God and His purposes.
Gave the link to whole chapters to show Hillsongees there was nothing said about Moses being empowered to strike the rock on either occasion. He certainly had the physical/ mental capability to strike a rock if he chose to do so. Is there a hidden meaning to the claim “Moses was empowered” to strike the rock?
Thinker, I stand corrected. God did in fact command Moses to strike the rock (Exodus); it was the Numbers account that I was referring to, so Brian did accurately quote the Exodus account, and I hereby apologise to him for my misquote.
The rest of my comment stands.
DANZIGERsaid:
“and I hereby apologise to him for my misquote.”
On the flip side, don’t ever hold your breath for any apology from Brian Houston for anything to anyone. Or you’ll be waiting an eternity.
It’s amazing he never apologized for his Mark Driscoll recorded interview stunt. Any post-downfall damage Mark Driscoll does to the Body of Christ can partly be attributed to Brian Houston, who was quick and probably the first to help Mark Driscoll rise back into power / dictatorship. Wonder how long it will take before more people are suffering at his new church in Phoenix.
Any post-downfall damage Mark Driscoll does to the Body of Christ can partly be attributed to Brian Houston,
I’m certain if you try you can find a link to blame the problems and failings of nearly anything you like on Brian Houston.
It amazes me that you people are so petty and jealous of Brian – who cares if yo don;t agree with his theology – who cares if you don’t like the way he talks – who cares if you don’t like the fact he had a sinful father – who cares that quite possibly (I can’t know for sure as I have know idea who any of you are – except for maybe two of you – hey Margo – should you be correcting men? Hey Jake) none of you are doing a single things outside of this pathetic website to build the kingdom of God.
Literally millions of people around the world are drawn closer to God through the ministry of Hillsong every year – millions – every year!!!
God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God, and did you love your neighbours as yourself? EVERYTHING else is horse puckey.
GNsaid:
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God, and did you love your neighbours as yourself? EVERYTHING else is horse puckey.”
Another hillsong apologist who doesn’t know what the Gospel is (there are so many, aren’t there?) It looks like Greg the Explorer isn’t willing to humble himself and repent – what a tragedy that he will be joining Brian Houston in the lake of fire.
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God, and did you love your neighbours as yourself? EVERYTHING else is horse puckey.”
And how are you going with that, Greg? Able to keep the Law perfectly? If you stumble in one part, you’re guilty of all (James 2:10). We are “justified by faith apart from the works of the law” because no one is able to keep the law perfectly. (Romans 3:28)
Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.
Beware of the Hillsong Liesaid:
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God,”
And there you have it. Brian Houston never loved God, he loved Money. In fact, Brian Houston loved money so much, he was eager to distort the Scriptures to beg for it.
“and did you love your neighbours as yourself?”
Oh and Brian Houston loved his neighbors too, he loved them so much those were the ones he distorted the Scriptures to and scammed using the Bible. Wow, boy oh boy did Brian Houston ever love them.
Beware of the Hillsong Liesaid:
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God,”
And there you have it… Brian Houston never loved God, he loved Money. In fact, Brian Houston loved money so much, he was eager to distort the Scriptures to beg for it.
“and did you love your neighbours as yourself?”
Oh and Brian Houston loved his neighbors too, he loved them so much those were the ones he distorted the Scriptures to and scammed using the Bible. Wow, boy oh boy did Brian Houston ever love them.
So now you’re posthumously telling lies about Frank Houston? Now YOU are rewriting history – cite just one valid reference that Frank Houston raped anyone – you can’t because none exists. Yes he abused a boy in NZ, yes that’s reprehensible – but so is you lot thinking your better than he is and then trying to make out that because FH was a flawed human being that this somehow is the responsibility of BH – it doesn’t float fellas – wake up to your selves – and maybe watch yourself for change
Debrasaid:
What is your definition of rape?
Chessy Crowssaid:
“yes that’s reprehensible – but so is you lot thinking your better than he is and then trying to make out that because FH was a flawed human being that this somehow is the responsibility of BH – it doesn’t float fellas”
Do you suspect the Royal Commission thinks they’re better than Brian Houston simply because they questioned BH as to his responsibility in covering this crap up?
Go testify your foolish drivel at the Royal Commission and watch yourself get laughed out of the southern hemisphere you joker.
Debrasaid:
The dictionary defines rape as:”rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration without the person’s consent or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent such as one who is an intellectual disability or below the legal age of consent.”
Listen to the details of AHA’s rape from 7 years old to puberty from the Royal Commission into institutional Child Sexual Assault. It’s easily available on line. You’ll find ample evidence of Frank’s rapes.
Even Brian himself says that his father told him about how sexually active he was with children in the 1960’s and Brian also admitted that there may be many more
victims. Research indicates that a paedophile rapes between 100-200 children in their lifetime. This is particularly the case with a “fixated” paedophile (who usually attacks male children).
Brian is guilty of covering up and protecting his father even though he knew the law impelled him to do otherwise. I believe that, before God, that If you protect a paedophile from the law, you are just as guilty as the pedo.
Your treatment of the Australian victims’ rape is reprehensible – as is your comparing this site with the sins of pedo Frank Houston- especially as you are the one aligning yourself with law breaker Brian and his dirty old pedo dad – not us!
Jesssaid:
Greg the Explorer just points to his works in pride? That’s all he thinks God is about, Greg’s works? Did Greg the Explorer just call the cross of Jesus Christ, “horse puckey”????? The death of Jesus, where my salvation was paid so I will be in heaven and not in eternal torment in the lake of fire?
Sick and twisted supporters of Hellcult (the name I give to Hillsong).
Hillsong Church Watch 
Doesn’t Brian Houston think anyone uses Google? For search “Hillsong church history”, first result is from Wikipedia.
Hillsong Church…..*****was founded in 1983**** when the Sydney Christian Life Centre in Waterloo, New South Wales, established by Frank Houston, merged with the Hills Christian Life Centre in Baulkham Hills, New South Wales, established by his son, Brian Houston.
For people who will dismiss Wikipedia, read long quotes from overall positive towards Charismatic churches TEXTBOOK (remember: exceptionally high standards expected for academic textbooks in university libraries).
https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/2016/02/21/the-origins-of-hillsong-part-3-frank-houstons-takeover-and-makeover-of-nz-aog/#comment-26783.
Therefore, if the Hillsong church was formed in 1979, Brian Houston is inadvertently admitting that Frank Houston started Hillsong.
https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/2016/02/21/the-origins-of-hillsong-part-3-frank-houstons-takeover-and-makeover-of-nz-aog/#comment-26788
NOTE: Of these various mega-churches, the most influential has been Hillsong church. In August 1983, ****FRANK HOUSTON SENT HIS SON BRIAN***** to pioneer a church in the Hills district of North West Sydney.
Houston cannot possibly be taken seriously by any bible-believing Christian. Houston’s attempt to compare his life with Moses could almost amusing except that many people will fall for his propaganda.
Moses: adopted by Pharaoh’s daughter, a pagan therefore brought up learning about ancient Egyptian’s customs, beliefs etc. Some extremely immoral religious and cultural practices. (Exodus 2:1-10)
Anyone who can use Google beyond Facebook level can see how bad they were (from a Christian perspective of course). Warning : level M content. http://anthropology.msu.edu/anp455-fs14/2014/10/23/ancient-egyptian-sexuality/
Moses: ran away after murdering an Egyptian man for beating a fellow Jew (Exodus 2:11-14). Hardly showing signs of church life and moral upbringing there.
Moses: had a stammer and tried to get out of speaking any way possible. (Exodus 4:11-17). Definitely no desire to speak from an early age and he even begged God to let his brother speak for him instead, angering God in the process.
Moses: wandered 40 years in the desert and wasn’t allowed to enter the Promised Land due to striking the rock, not speaking to the rock as God commanded Numbers 20:7-12).
Dreams? Really? It almost makes me sick when I hear those words. It’s as though, once uttered, those words ‘I dreamed…’ take on some kind of holy mantle, and are not open to scrutiny or challenge.
The number of times in scripture that God appeared to someone in any kind of dream or vision is very few, and the point is those dreams & visions were initiated by God for his own glorification and purposes, so that His will would be done through the human agency of God’s own choice. Paul’s conversion is a fine example of this.
Brian has it backwards – he wants to have his dreams, and expects that God will step in and fulfill them, thereby glorifying Brian. That is utterly perverse.
If he wants to talk about Hillsong history, then consider his own words, how he decided to locate his “church” in the Hills District of Northwest Sydney. He got the idea from the fact that Australia’s biggest Holden dealership [Tony Packard Holden – “Up the Windsor Rd from Baulkham Hills and let ME do it RIGHT for YOUUUU!!!”] was located there, and if they could prosper in that location, then why not Brian’s “church”?
I think all you need to know is right there in that candid revelation. Brian establishes a church based on an idea he got from a (arguably) successful Holden car dealer. It was all about demographics, marketing and money from the very start – not about preaching the Gospel to the lost.
Interesting aside: Tony Packard Holden turned out to be a house of cards, and Tony fled the country to avoid investigation and possible prosecution. That’s some legacy.
So Brian had “…an “untainted heritage”, “growing up in a Ministry family, and in a Ministry family, I was surrounded by the things of God and church life”?
So he’s still holding on to being completely in the dark about Frank’s nefarious activities, that many other people did have suspicions about? Really Brian, not a single clue? Your father was destroying young lives in NZ and Australia, and you had absolutely no idea? I don’t believe that for a second.
At 58:36, Houston says: “From the earliest stage I can remember, in fact from before I can remember, I wanted to serve Jesus. I wanted to be a preacher. I wanted to build a church. You know I wanted to preach the Gospel.”
– How can you remember from before you can remember? Sounds similar to Bobby Conner remembering the first time he prophesied was from within his mother’s womb, lol.
– Does Houston remember the first time he realized he could bilk people out of millions of dollars?
– Regardless his statements above are a complete lie, because Houston has never preached “the Gospel”, he’s only preached “the Prosperity gospel.”
And on Houston comparing himself to Moses, it’s the same narcissism Furtick displayed in your other article as Furtick compared himself to the Son of God.
In both cases, there is no comparison between them, and Moses or Jesus.
Houston and Furtick are once again shown to be narcissistic frauds who are puffed-up braggarts in their own minds, caring nothing about biblical Christianity but caring everything about their real gods…… $$$$ and making themselves look good to their target audiences.
Also, the point that seems to escape Brian, is that Moses was, by his own admission a flawed individual, and that it was by God’s doing, not Moses’, that Israel was brought up out of Egypt with great signs and wonders. It had nothing to do with Moses, and nothing to do with the rod in his hand. Brian incorrectly states that God empowered Moses to strike the rock to produce water. Moses was not commanded to do that, and it was an act of disobedience for which he paid by not being allowed to enter the promised land. God does do amazing things through people, but only the humble and obedient ones.
As for 2 Timothy 1:9, try reading it in context, which at bare minimum involves reading from 8 – 12a:
“Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God, 9who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began 10and which now has been manifested through the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, 11for which I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher, 12which is why I suffer as I do.”
The key points are: i. Do not be ashamed of the gospel; ii. Be prepared to suffer for it; iii. Salvation and calling are by God’s purpose and grace, and nothing to do with us, or what we ‘have in our hand’ (which isn’t mentioned in that passage); and iv. This passage is about The Gospel of Jesus Christ, not about God realizing peoples’ dreams through whatever talents they have.
Brian’s theology is 100% opposed to what scripture teaches us about God and His purposes.
RE Moses striking the rock: I’d forgotten there had been actually two occasions.
First time Moses was commanded to do so, verse 16.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+17&version=KJV
Second time Moses was commanded to only speak. See verses 7-11. Moses disobeyed God when he struck the rock in anger. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=numbers+20&version=KJV
Gave the link to whole chapters to show Hillsongees there was nothing said about Moses being empowered to strike the rock on either occasion. He certainly had the physical/ mental capability to strike a rock if he chose to do so. Is there a hidden meaning to the claim “Moses was empowered” to strike the rock?
Thinker, I stand corrected. God did in fact command Moses to strike the rock (Exodus); it was the Numbers account that I was referring to, so Brian did accurately quote the Exodus account, and I hereby apologise to him for my misquote.
The rest of my comment stands.
“and I hereby apologise to him for my misquote.”
On the flip side, don’t ever hold your breath for any apology from Brian Houston for anything to anyone. Or you’ll be waiting an eternity.
It’s amazing he never apologized for his Mark Driscoll recorded interview stunt. Any post-downfall damage Mark Driscoll does to the Body of Christ can partly be attributed to Brian Houston, who was quick and probably the first to help Mark Driscoll rise back into power / dictatorship. Wonder how long it will take before more people are suffering at his new church in Phoenix.
I’m certain if you try you can find a link to blame the problems and failings of nearly anything you like on Brian Houston.
It amazes me that you people are so petty and jealous of Brian – who cares if yo don;t agree with his theology – who cares if you don’t like the way he talks – who cares if you don’t like the fact he had a sinful father – who cares that quite possibly (I can’t know for sure as I have know idea who any of you are – except for maybe two of you – hey Margo – should you be correcting men? Hey Jake) none of you are doing a single things outside of this pathetic website to build the kingdom of God.
Literally millions of people around the world are drawn closer to God through the ministry of Hillsong every year – millions – every year!!!
God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God, and did you love your neighbours as yourself? EVERYTHING else is horse puckey.
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God, and did you love your neighbours as yourself? EVERYTHING else is horse puckey.”
Another hillsong apologist who doesn’t know what the Gospel is (there are so many, aren’t there?) It looks like Greg the Explorer isn’t willing to humble himself and repent – what a tragedy that he will be joining Brian Houston in the lake of fire.
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God, and did you love your neighbours as yourself? EVERYTHING else is horse puckey.”
And how are you going with that, Greg? Able to keep the Law perfectly? If you stumble in one part, you’re guilty of all (James 2:10). We are “justified by faith apart from the works of the law” because no one is able to keep the law perfectly. (Romans 3:28)
Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God,”
And there you have it. Brian Houston never loved God, he loved Money. In fact, Brian Houston loved money so much, he was eager to distort the Scriptures to beg for it.
“and did you love your neighbours as yourself?”
Oh and Brian Houston loved his neighbors too, he loved them so much those were the ones he distorted the Scriptures to and scammed using the Bible. Wow, boy oh boy did Brian Houston ever love them.
“God cares about two things – JUST TWO – did you love God,”
And there you have it… Brian Houston never loved God, he loved Money. In fact, Brian Houston loved money so much, he was eager to distort the Scriptures to beg for it.
“and did you love your neighbours as yourself?”
Oh and Brian Houston loved his neighbors too, he loved them so much those were the ones he distorted the Scriptures to and scammed using the Bible. Wow, boy oh boy did Brian Houston ever love them.
So now you’re posthumously telling lies about Frank Houston? Now YOU are rewriting history – cite just one valid reference that Frank Houston raped anyone – you can’t because none exists. Yes he abused a boy in NZ, yes that’s reprehensible – but so is you lot thinking your better than he is and then trying to make out that because FH was a flawed human being that this somehow is the responsibility of BH – it doesn’t float fellas – wake up to your selves – and maybe watch yourself for change
What is your definition of rape?
“yes that’s reprehensible – but so is you lot thinking your better than he is and then trying to make out that because FH was a flawed human being that this somehow is the responsibility of BH – it doesn’t float fellas”
Do you suspect the Royal Commission thinks they’re better than Brian Houston simply because they questioned BH as to his responsibility in covering this crap up?
Go testify your foolish drivel at the Royal Commission and watch yourself get laughed out of the southern hemisphere you joker.
The dictionary defines rape as:”rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration without the person’s consent or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent such as one who is an intellectual disability or below the legal age of consent.”
Listen to the details of AHA’s rape from 7 years old to puberty from the Royal Commission into institutional Child Sexual Assault. It’s easily available on line. You’ll find ample evidence of Frank’s rapes.
Even Brian himself says that his father told him about how sexually active he was with children in the 1960’s and Brian also admitted that there may be many more
victims. Research indicates that a paedophile rapes between 100-200 children in their lifetime. This is particularly the case with a “fixated” paedophile (who usually attacks male children).
Brian is guilty of covering up and protecting his father even though he knew the law impelled him to do otherwise. I believe that, before God, that If you protect a paedophile from the law, you are just as guilty as the pedo.
Your treatment of the Australian victims’ rape is reprehensible – as is your comparing this site with the sins of pedo Frank Houston- especially as you are the one aligning yourself with law breaker Brian and his dirty old pedo dad – not us!
Greg the Explorer just points to his works in pride? That’s all he thinks God is about, Greg’s works? Did Greg the Explorer just call the cross of Jesus Christ, “horse puckey”????? The death of Jesus, where my salvation was paid so I will be in heaven and not in eternal torment in the lake of fire?
Sick and twisted supporters of Hellcult (the name I give to Hillsong).
“Hellcult (the name I give to Hillsong).”
or “Harletsong”