We produced an article that labeled Hillsong’s statement of belief’s as a “sheepskin”, exposing the fact that this criminal* organisation can say whatever they want to convince Christianity they are Christian while recklessly doing things that oppose the Christian faith.
Hillsong’s “What We Believe” sheepskin
Chris Rosebrough from Fighting for the Faith has also exposed how Hillsong clearly do not believe their own copy/paste belief statements.
Rosebrough exposes Hillsong’s copy/paste statement of beliefs as a sham?
So when Brian Houston claims,
“I also live by my own convictions, and hold to traditional Christian thought,”
Or claims to believe,
“The writings of the apostle Paul in scripture,”
he really means – “I can’t believe you still give me the benefit of the doubt as the fraud that I am.”
You may think we’re being harsh, but when you compare Brian Houston’s beliefs and teachings to the Scriptures you’ll realize he’s not a Christian.
If Brian Houston wants us to believe that his Hillsong organisation believes “the Bible is God’s Word. It is accurate, authoritative and applicable to our everyday lives,” then that should mean he believes scriptures when it says women cannot be pastors, right?
Source: http/hillsong.com/brian-bobbie, (Accessed: 08/08/2016)
“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.” 1 Timothy 2:11-15
“As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” 1 Corinthians 14:33-35
“In this way they can train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, managers of their households, kind, and subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be discredited.” Titus 2:4-5
The reason why women are called to submit like this within the church gathering is that men also must submit to their wives and be willing to give up their lives for them, the way Christ gave His life up for the church (Ephesians 5). This doctrine of submission between man and woman, husband and wife is known as complementarianism – a doctrine the church has held to for nearly two thousand years. The complementarian position is seen to uphold what has been the most traditional teaching on gender roles in the church. You can even read on some of the church father’s views on this topic here.
However, when it comes to ‘Pastors’ Brian and Bobbie Houston, and Jesus – Jesus is kicked out of Hillsong. ‘Pastors’ Brian and Bobbie Houston knows what’s better for their ‘church’ than Jesus does.
Here we see Brian Houston being quoted on Australian television in Australian Story talking about the situation with women in leadership at his church:
“In a sense I’ve got a conservative, biblical idea that a man should take a role of leadership in his life. But I certainly don’t adhere to the mentality that a woman must submit or that she should be pushed down. I absolutely believe that there’s a sense of walking together in life.”
As the Scriptures we quoted earlier in this article explain, women cannot be pastors in a church gathering and the doctrine of complementarianism is in play. Brian Houston portrays those Scriptures in a negative and out of context light by making them sound like they’re taught so only women have to submit and be pushed down. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Not only is Brian Houston elevating his own beliefs as superior to that of God’s Word, he is also portraying Jesus Christ and his apostles as misogynists. [If you’re a Christian throw up now.]
Brain Houston also has this gripe over one of his elders,
“We’ve got a lot of women involved in very active ministry in our church, including Bobbie my wife, and of course our worship pastor, and it is true that at this point, none of the church Elders are women. I think it’s something that we need to keep addressing, but I do have one particular key person who has a real strong biblical stance on that, and I think mostly it’s out of respect to them at this point, that I haven’t considered bringing a woman onto the eldership. However, our style of leadership is very much husbands and wives, really the team, male or female, working together.”
Source: Brian Houston, Interview with Brian Houston, Australian Story, http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2005/s1427560.htm, Program trasncript – 01/08/2005. (Accessed 08/09/2015.)
By Brian Houston’s own admission, he hasn’t called women to be Church Elders not because he believes what the Scriptures have to say about women not having a position of leadership or authority in a Church gathering, but rather, because there’s “one particular key person who has a real strong biblical stance” that Brian doesn’t feel like he can go against. So Brian Houston is:
1. Fearing man over God and that’s a huge problem, especially since he claims to be a ‘Christian Pastor’.
2. Openly admitting he wants to rebel against God’s Word and someone who has a reverence for it and will do so after this ‘key person’ is no longer there.
If ‘Pastors’ Brian and Bobbie Houston continue to ignore God’s Word and put their own thoughts and feelings as “Biblical truth,” then one can’t help but wonder how long it will be before homosexuals will be in leadership positions at Hillsong.
“[Homosexuality] is a dilemma because the Bible’s quite clear about some of the parameters that belong to those in leadership. And we’re still figuring it out… We want to bridge all the divides in society and I think that’s one of the final divides.”
Source: Bobbie Houston, Australian Women’s Weekly, We’re Not A Cult, March Issue, 2016.
* We appeal to the fact that Jesus Christ calls those who claim to be of him false prophets and on judgment day calls them lawless/wicked ones in Matthew 7:15-21. Since Hillsong continue to fulfill this criteria according to Christ – it is our opinion this title is fitting to apply to Hillsong so that Christian and secular communities do not get destroyed by such a fraudulent institution using the guise of Christianity to further their fraudulent behaviour.
It’s no wonder they accept homosexuals in the church, its just as wrong as accepting women as pastors and they went down that road a long time ago. The “women in ministry” thing is a death knell to the integrity of any felllowship or denomination.
I know it’s almost as bad as setting up a website for the sole purpose of speaking hate and deviding the church, and never once pointing people to Jesus.
“and never once pointing people to Jesus.”
you mean like brian houston? he points people to the “Financial Jesus” thats on wall street.
you are no friend of Jesus. you hate the Bible so you also hate Him.
“I know it’s almost as bad as setting up a website for the sole purpose of speaking hate and deviding the church”
its brian houston whos dividing the church with his false gospel. stop your lying, guy. its getting old already. tired of reading all your crapola.
“it is our opinion this title is fitting to apply to Hillsong so that Christian and secular communities do not get destroyed by such a fraudulent institution using the guise of Christianity to further their fraudulent behaviour.”
Their fraudulent behavior yes, but especially their greedy race for what the Bible calls “filthy lucre” for doing what the Bible calls “making merchandise of the Gospel.”
And not just filthy lucre from their own congregants, but also filthy lucre taken from congregants of other ‘churches’ who attend Hillsong Conference and buy Houston books.
And also filthy lucre from ‘churches’ that Brian Hillsong Houston immorally takes over.
This is I hope not critical of me but in 1986 I toured with Brian Houston with a group being the choir and musicians around N.Z. for two weeks.
Seeing and noticing his behaviour every day didn’t display humility and Christlikeness.
He neither to the best of my recall, I cannot remember that he ever attempted any personal warmth or friendliness toward the small group I was with.
My idea or what I concluded in my mind was he must’ve felt too important in his role to stoop to our level, as the people I interacted with would be classified as brothers and sisters of low estate.
As a young christian at the time, and very zealous for God, I was not one bit impressed by him at all. There seemed to be a pompous air about him, and he only seemed to gravitate toward the popular crowd, the “brothers & sisters” who to my understanding didn’t seem truly keen for the Lord but just in it for the ride, to have fun.
To my mind, and even then as a newby believer, a “pastor” who sat at the back of the bus all the time with his more gregarious and outgoing followers who all seemed to be on a mission to prove that christians are real and genuine people who enjoy having “fun” and the “good life” as much as the world does, didn’t wash with me at all.
One might say, well that was then, 30 years ago, but in all honesty I don’t notice any real change in Brian’s persona & attitude to this day. I think, but I hope I’m mistaken, but I think he enjoys too much of the “good life”, and ingratuating towards the people of distinction, the people of authority, who know how to speak and be heard, the people with all the money, all the talent and the personality, which the word of God in the book of James forbids when it says dont favour or show preference to those who are better off than others (James 2:1-9). Also 1 Cor.1:26-29.
Good testimony.
Hillsong ‘apologists’ who come here constantly ask: “Well have YOU ever been to Hillsong YOURSELF?”
First off, of course several of the moderators were Hillsong insiders from the beginning.
Second, occasionally I as an occasional observer read testimonies like yours by insiders such as yourself who obviously speak the truth.
Yet, Hillsong ‘apologists’ still deny everything negative about Hillsong and Brian. They only believe what they choose to believe subjectively, consistently ignoring that the facts speak negatively of this entire faux-‘church’ and its faux-‘pastor’ leader Brian.
Thank you Glenn. Your story is very interesting and believable.