We produced an article that labeled Hillsong’s statement of belief’s as a “sheepskin”, exposing the fact that this criminal* organisation can say whatever they want to convince Christianity they are Christian while recklessly doing things that oppose the Christian faith.
“I also live by my own convictions, and hold to traditional Christian thought,”
Or claims to believe,
“The writings of the apostle Paul in scripture,”
he really means – “I can’t believe you still give me the benefit of the doubt as the fraud that I am.”
You may think we’re being harsh, but when you compare Brian Houston’s beliefs and teachings to the Scriptures you’ll realize he’s not a Christian.
If Brian Houston wants us to believe that his Hillsong organisation believes “the Bible is God’s Word. It is accurate, authoritative and applicable to our everyday lives,” then that should mean he believes scriptures when it says women cannot be pastors, right?
“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.” 1 Timothy 2:11-15
“As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.”1 Corinthians 14:33-35
“In this way they can train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, managers of their households, kind, and subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be discredited.”Titus 2:4-5
The reason why women are called to submit like this within the church gathering is that men also must submit to their wives and be willing to give up their lives for them, the way Christ gave His life up for the church (Ephesians 5). This doctrine of submission between man and woman, husband and wife is known as complementarianism – a doctrine the church has held to for nearly two thousand years. The complementarian position is seen to uphold what has been the most traditional teachingon gender roles in the church. You can even read on some of the church father’s views on this topic here.
However, when it comes to ‘Pastors’ Brian and Bobbie Houston, and Jesus – Jesus is kicked out of Hillsong. ‘Pastors’ Brian and Bobbie Houston knows what’s better for their ‘church’ than Jesus does.
Here we see Brian Houston being quoted on Australian television in Australian Story talking about the situation with women in leadership at his church:
“In a sense I’ve got a conservative, biblical idea that a man should take a role of leadership in his life. But I certainly don’t adhere to the mentality that a woman must submit or that she should be pushed down. I absolutely believe that there’s a sense of walking together in life.”
As the Scriptures we quoted earlier in this article explain, women cannot be pastors in a church gathering and the doctrine of complementarianism is in play. Brian Houston portrays those Scriptures in a negative and out of context light by making them sound like they’re taught so only women have to submit and be pushed down. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Not only is Brian Houston elevating his own beliefs as superior to that of God’s Word, he is also portraying Jesus Christ and his apostles as misogynists. [If you’re a Christian throw up now.]
Brain Houston also has this gripe over one of his elders,
“We’ve got a lot of women involved in very active ministry in our church, including Bobbie my wife, and of course our worship pastor, and it is true that at this point, none of the church Elders are women. I think it’s something that we need to keep addressing, but I do have one particular key person who has a real strong biblical stance on that, and I think mostly it’s out of respect to them at this point, that I haven’t considered bringing a woman onto the eldership. However, our style of leadership is very much husbands and wives, really the team, male or female, working together.”
Source: Brian Houston, Interview with Brian Houston, Australian Story, http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2005/s1427560.htm, Program trasncript – 01/08/2005. (Accessed 08/09/2015.)
By Brian Houston’s own admission, he hasn’t called women to be Church Elders not because he believes what the Scriptures have to say about women not having a position of leadership or authority in a Church gathering, but rather, because there’s “one particular key person who has a real strong biblical stance” that Brian doesn’t feel like he can go against. So Brian Houston is:
1. Fearing man over God and that’s a huge problem, especially since he claims to be a ‘Christian Pastor’.
2. Openly admitting he wants to rebel against God’s Word and someone who has a reverence for it and will do so after this ‘key person’ is no longer there.
If ‘Pastors’ Brian and Bobbie Houston continue to ignore God’s Word and put their own thoughts and feelings as “Biblical truth,” then one can’t help but wonder how long it will be before homosexuals will be in leadership positions at Hillsong.
“[Homosexuality] is a dilemma because the Bible’s quite clear about some of the parameters that belong to those in leadership. And we’re still figuring it out… We want to bridge all the divides in society and I think that’s one of the final divides.”
Source: Bobbie Houston, Australian Women’s Weekly, We’re Not A Cult, March Issue, 2016.
* We appeal to the fact that Jesus Christ calls those who claim to be of him false prophets and on judgment day calls them lawless/wicked ones in Matthew 7:15-21. Since Hillsong continue to fulfill this criteria according to Christ – it is our opinion this title is fitting to apply to Hillsong so that Christian and secular communities do not get destroyed by such a fraudulent institution using the guise of Christianity to further their fraudulent behaviour.
Is Hillsong “championing” the cause of your local church? An insider from Calvary Kendall Miami shines a light behind the scenes as to how Hillsong assimilates churches into their movement:
It’s done by deceit.
This type of unethical take-over of churches is a reoccurring phenomena within the Hillsong movement. Significant churches that have been taken over by Hillsong are:
Garden City Church
Grace City Church
Oslo Christian Center
Pay attention to the warning signs.
CALVARY CHAPEL “TAKE-OVER” IN MIAMI
Imagine: It’s 2010 and you are happy at your Calvary Chapel church. All seems to be going well. Then the senior pastor decides he wants to change direction and become a Hillsong copy and join the Hillsong family. But you don’t know this. All you know is your pastor kicked you out because you believe in Jesus and His Word. Then you find out what was happening because Christians online were forced to take their experiences online and warn everybody about your pastor’s agenda.
This is what people experienced under the leadership of Hillsong “Family” leader Pedro Garcia at Calvary Kendall, Miami.
“Pastor” Pedro of Calvary Kendall was influenced to do church differently after attending a Hillsong Concert in 2010. Later, Pedro personally met with Hillsong’s senior leader Brian Houston over dinner. Houston invited Pedro to have his church join the Hillsong Family. This invitation was kept secret and “Pastor” Pedro Garcia proceeded to start the process of assimilation into Hillsong without telling his congregation of his agenda.
Recently, it was discovered that Hillsong NYC Youth Pastor Diego Simila played the Hillsong’s Naked Cowboy (NC) at Hillsong’s US Color Conference. While this information was circulating, Brian Houston released a blog post on this controversy. What followed after that was the sudden removal of Diego Simila’s sermons online. We wrote an article in response to this phenomena here:
Carl Lentz of Hillsong Church NYC responded to this article. You can read his response below. If anyone wants to understand our previous conversations with Carl, read here.
We’ve spaced his comment so it is easier to read.
Carl Lentz writes,
Hey guys! Diego is 100 percent our youth pastor at Hillsong Church New York City… I’ve seen quite a few silly things on this topic, this blog is right up there w/ the most silly. I have no idea why anybody, is trying to say we are “cyber scrubbing” anything to do with Diego.
There may not be many sermons online of Diego preaching, because he doesn’t travel and preach often! He is typically busy building our local youth ministry…if he has preached at another church and they put it online and now have taken it off, that’s THIER call not ours. Has zero to do with Hillsong Church.
This is now the second time I have had to clarify bad facts and address you on the very same issue you continually attempt to throw at my church.(you stated as fact one time, I had my own YouTube channel, which in fact I do not and cannot control fake accounts posing as me. I think you issued some sort of apology but mostly re-directed…sound familiar? If I had more time, I would read more of your stuff and im sure there would be profound inaccuracy throughout..)
So again, in your rush to write blogs about us, please do your best to at least get facts right. I realize you hate our church and you get excited to get new material up as fast as you can, that’s your obvious right. But your credibility suffers when you have to retract things, and I want you to be the best church watcher site you can be.
Diego is our youth pastor, I think he’s one of the best I have ever known when it comes to serving and helping young people and if he preaches on a Sunday and we put it online, keep your eye out for it! I love his preaching too..nobody has ever tried to scrub this man, from anything, so your entire blog here? Lacks truth. That has to be disappointing when that’s supposed to be what you hold dear.
Do better and have a great day!
Sincerely: Carl Lentz..
Guy who hired Diego as youth pastor and is confirming his existence.
Source: Carl Lentz, Prankster or pastor? Where the world is Hillsong’s man Diego?, ChurchWatchCentral, http://churchwatchcentral.com/2016/06/03/prankster-or-pastor-where-the-world-is-hillsongs-man-diego/, Published 04/06/2016. (Accessed 05/06/2016.)
Do you agree with Carl Lentz’s challenge to us? Do you think he gave us enough information so we could correct our article? What are your thoughts on this?
You don’t think Brian Houston and the Hillsong empire brainwashes their congregants into submission? We would encourage you to do a bible study on this sermon by Brian Houston, given this year (2016).
Think hard of the ramifications of his advice and see if you notice any reoccurring hypocritical behaviour of Brian Houston throughout this sermon. If you are a loyal follower of Hillsong, what are do you think you are allowed to think after this sermon?
Listen to how Houston deliberately leads them on a journey to conclude they must “die to [their] opinion or know when it’s right to hold our opinion and live our lives with an openness to Godly counsel”.
Then, step back and consider what he is saying. Why isn’t Brian Houston promoting the idea that Christians are to be governed by God’s Word? Does God grow the church or does man? Does he use the bible to explain what governs and grows the church?
… Or is this all Brian Houston’s opinion? (“I believe”, “I think”,etc.). Furthermore, what do you think this type of false teaching does?
Essentially it conditions his listeners to NOT think biblically or critically engage with what is said by Hillsong’s established infallible ‘magisterium’. And according to Brian Houston, does he even submit to them?
In essence, Brian Houston is like Goldilocks. He claims he doesn’t want ‘yes’ men (their opinions are too hot). He claims he doesn’t want policemen (their opinions are too cold). He wants to be ‘governed’ by opinions that are ‘juuuust right’.
Once again, Hillsong’s ‘fuhrer’ has reinforced his congregants not to question him or his counsel.
#SpotHouston’sLie: Clues – Romans 11:25-7, John 12:36-43
TRANSCRIPT: What Are You Soaking In?
“What are you soaking in? That’s what this message is called. What are you soaking in?
Every single person who can hear my voice has a right to your opinion, but I’ve never seen opinion build a church. As a matter of fact there’s very little I’ve ever seen opinion build.
So what are you soaking in? I’m thinking in terms of being opinionated, cause it’s kind of like being marinated, you are soaking in opinion and sadly some people, they are soaking in opinion. And because they are soaking in opinion, number one, their contribution is actually smaller not greater and the reality is what it adds and what it contributes is often not helpful it is entirely the opposite.
And so, there’s nothing wrong with opinion, it’s all about wisdom and when’s the right time to share our opinion and what an opinion can actually build, what in fact at times instead of building diminishes.
And so, Romans chapter 12, verse 16, says, ‘Be of the same mind toward one another do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.’
The scripture says, ‘let’s not be wise in your own opinion’. The world holds very closely to its right to have an opinion, ‘I’m entitled to my opinion’ and of course you are, you’re entirely entitled to your opinion. I just know it’s not opinion that builds ministries it’s not opinion that builds churches and ultimately it’s not your opinion that will build your own life and I think it’s good to think about that.
You see, it’s not always right to give your opinion and a wise person knows even when they know so much and there’s so much they can tell, a wise person knows when is the right time to share and what is the spirit to share with and they out of a spirit of counsel rather than opinion often speak words like the Bible says, ‘be slow to speak’ that because they don’t constantly put their opinion out there at the front, their words have actually more resonance, have more power. I wonder how much power your words have.
Some things about an opinion. Firstly, opinions can rule you, so many people are ruled by opinion, your own opinion, other’s opinions, public opinion, popular opinion, and we can get so ruled by opinion. And so you can’t live your life being ruled firstly by your own opinion because that will always diminish and limit you and second, you cannot live being ruled by the opinions of others.
We’ve all got to be able to listen, we’ve all got to receive counsel, we all need guidance in our lives, we all need spiritual fathers, spiritual mothers, mentors, people whose counsel we value. Strong leadership is being strong enough to be able to be taught, to be able to listen and to be able to receive from other people.
So, opinions can rule you and I think a lot of people, a lot of believers are intimidated, completely intimidated by the opinions of others and they’re ruled by the fear of what other people think and you know that can become a prison for you.
You cannot build anything on opinion, in James chapter 2, verse 1 [MSG] it says, ‘don’t let public opinion influence how you live out our glorious, Christ originated faith’. Don’t let public opinion influence how you live out our glorious, Christ originated faith. Opinion can rule you and I think the less confident, the less assured you are of who you are in Christ, the more likely you are to be bullied by everybody’s opinions.
Second thing is, opinions can bind you. I mean people literally do diminish their lives, I believe through being bound up in their own opinion.
You see, your opinion can be holding you rather than you holding it and if your opinion holds you, then you are being led by your opinion and sadly if people are being led by their opinion all the time then they’re not receptive, they’re often not listening, they are not easily corrected and so consequently, they are bound by their own opinion and it’s keeping their world smaller.
And I’ll say this, sadly, often the smaller the person the bigger the opinion. I’m not talking for one second about stature naturally speaking, I’m talking about the smallness of spirit and often times it’s the person whose spirit is the smallest, who has got the most to say. And that’s where we can get so bound up by our own opinion.
So you can be bound by your own opinion and of course you can get bound by other people’s opinions and untimely you can get locked between opinions because there’s so much opinion in the world.
1 Kings chapter 18, verse 21, [NKJV] ‘and Elijah came to all the people, and said, ‘how long will you falter between two opinions? If the Lord is God follow Him; but if baal, follow him. But the people answered him not a word.’ So the people were caught between two opinions, one that God is God the other is the worship of baal, they’re caught in the middle. And if you are not strong in your faith or not strong in yourself you will find in life constantly caught in the middle.
I think you can hide behind your opinion and I think sometimes people do hide, they hide the need to change, the need to grow, the need to perhaps be more flexible, the need to listen and to be taught. You can hide and, you know, your opinion can be quite bullying in many ways and so that’s where I talk about some people, who, you know, opinionated is a little like being marinated, they’re just soaking in opinion and if you lead with your opinion sometimes that can cause you, the real you to hide behind that opinion.
And if you look at God’s Word, God’s Word is filled with Godly counsel and not opinion and there’s a huge difference between having a culture of counsel and a culture of opinion because opinion tells, counsel is invited. You know, opinion is basically inflicted on you, counsel is invited into your life. And God’s Word is filled with His counsel, not His opinions and so yes as a church, I don’t think you could ever build a church on a million opinions but you do need to have an environment where counsel is invited and I’m not just talking about me as the Pastor of our church but for everyone whose part of a church, that we invite counsel into our lives, the right counsel, rather than opinion because you’ll find Godly counsel will build the house, Godly counsel will build your life.
Proverbs chapter 19, verse 21, [NKJV] says, ‘There are many plans in a man’s heart, nevertheless it’s the Lord’s counsel that will stand.’ The Lord says, ‘my counsel will stand’. And so let’s live our lives understanding the difference between opinion and counsel and let’s if we’re leaders not ruled by opinion, but be ruled by Godly counsel.
Proverbs chapter 15, verse 22, ‘without counsel, plans go awry, but in the multitude of counsellors they are established.’ I need counsel in my life, I just need to keep making sure I keep getting it from the right people. And so I think every person here you never, ever graduate from needing Godly counsel in your life, sometimes from mentors, sometimes from friends. But I think, you know, true you know, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful iron sharpens iron, friendships will help build your life and keep you from disaster because a man, his plans go awry when there’s a lack of Godly counsel in their lives.
So we need to know the difference between a culture of opinion and an environment of counsel and often is that difference between telling and listening, inviting and basically, ramming it down people’s throats, massive difference, massive difference.
So listen, opinion blocks truth, counsel invites truth. You know, it’s knowing the truth that should set you free, you shall know the truth it’s not just the truth will set you free it’s knowing the truth that will set you free and it’s knowing the truth that will bring freedom within the life of any church, any ministry as well.
And so, Romans chapter 11, verse 25, [NKJV] it’s interesting because it’s talking about the Jews and look at what it says, ‘For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.’ And so speaking of Israel, you know, sadly because they were so ruled by their opinion about what the Messiah should look like and what the Messiah would look like and what type of person the Messiah would be and they’re so ruled by their opinions when the Messiah was right there with them and under their nose, they rejected Him, didn’t accept Him and if only, if only they weren’t ruled by their absolute, you know, blinded opinion about the things of God, what the Messiah would look like and where the Gentiles fit and a whole range of other things.
The scripture says, talking about that blindness and it says, ‘…that blindness in part has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.’ In other words, they missed out, they were missing out because they were blind and they were blind by often times just their own opinions.
If you read 1 Corinthians chapter 1, you will see it right there where you know you can soon see they were expecting, what the Jews were expecting and what the Greeks were expecting and so because they were so filled with their opinion, sadly when the real Messiahs right there they missed out on the opportunity.
Here’s another thing, opinion is opposed, counsel is invited. You know, opinions are kind of, a bit more like smash and barge and so that’s how some people that’s how they live their lives. They are just ruled by opinion and they’re just smash, bang, barge and they do damage, they do damage because they’re just ruled by their opinion and opinion is opposed and that’s the difference counsel is invited.
And so counsel it recognises the gap. It recognises the opportunity. It’s a different way of approaching life altogether. And so if you are a person who on the inside, your insecure, you’ll find that you start crash and barging sometimes with your opinion and it can come because you think too highly of yourself, or it can come because you think too lowly of yourself.
The Scripture says, ‘let’s not think more highly of ourselves than we ought to think, but think soberly.’ The person who thinks too highly about themselves, they’re just telling, telling, telling they’re so filled with their own opinion, they don’t ask, they don’t ask, they just tell, tell, tell. And so I would encourage everyone here in life to just really think about your interpersonal relationships and the way you listen and the way you talk and let’s be people who live by Godly counsel, we invite that into our life, rather than opposing opinion which is a very different thing altogether.
And so with opinion, their spirit really is, ‘I’m going to hit you with whether you want it or not, its crash or barge. And as soon as you get that in a group of people, there’s not going to be any progress, there’s not going to be any movement forward, there’s not going to be the opportunity to have the kind of harmony, the united force that God wants His church to be. Blessed are those who dwell together in unity because that’s where God commands a blessing, not where people dwell together in opinion because we will never agree, we will never agree on a multitude of things inside the house of God, let alone outside the house of God.
And so Proverbs 1, verse 5, [NKJV] says, ‘A man of understanding will attain wise counsel.’ In other words, will invite it. Wise counsel, Godly counsel that’s what we need to invite into our lives.
So, I said opinion blocks true counsel, counsel invites truth. Second, opinion is opposed, counsel is invited. Third, opinion judges, counsel guides. And it’s true, you know, it’s literally in the dictionary if you look up the ‘opinion of the Court’, the ‘opinion of the Court’ it means, ‘this is the Court’s judgement’. And so, in a sense opinion is judgement, that’s what it is, you’re making a judgment on somebody, you’re making a judgment on that person, you’re making a judgement on this thing, you’re making a judgment on the worship team, you’re making a judgement on whatever it is that you may have a million opinions about.
And so, opinion judges but counsel, it guides. And it’s different because when you get that environment of opinion, you know, it becomes a very hard, mean environment, it really does and in a church, it’s all built on everyone’s opinion, it actually, all of the sweetness goes out of the air, all of the sweetness goes out of the ministry, all the sweetness even goes out of the services cause you’ve just got all these people who crash barge with their opinion.
And, you know, I just think when you do have this openness to learn, and to grow, and to be taught, ahhh you know, there’s a sweetness, there’s a sweetness that often you take it for granted if you’ve got it, but believe me it’s when you don’t have it that you know exactly what I am talking about.
So, opinion judges, counsel guides. Isaiah 28, verse 29, [NKJV] ‘This also comes from the Lord of Hosts, who is wonderful in counsel and excellent in guidance.’ And the two go together, wonderful in counsel and excellent in guidance. So, if we are people whose spirit and heart is open to guidance rather than living our lives by opinion, then you will find Godly counsel will bring the right guidance in your life.
The first place to go is of course, the Word of God which is all Godly counsel and God’s counsel will stand. But I just really pray and hope that you are secure enough to be who God called you to be, which means, ‘yes I am teachable, I’m open, I receive, I appreciate Godly counsel, I know where to get it, where not to get it. And it’s amazing how that will keep your life on course because it will bring guidance, God is wonderful in counsel and excellent in guidance, the Scripture says.
Number four, an opinion divides, counsel unites, and this is true. Opinion divides and strife and division comes because people fiercely protect their opinion. A culture of opinion is so divided but in an environment of counsel, it’s amazing how often our opinions concur. You know, even inside our own marriages and families, if you try to build your marriage on two opinions, oftentimes you’re gonna be so far apart and you’re gonna be so many poles apart, but you know if we really genuinely, I mean if we genuinely want to build the kind of relationship that has depth and strength to it, then you’ve gotta be able to speak to each other, you gotta be able to talk truth to each other, you gotta be able to speak counsel into each other’s lives.
Opinion’s change, counsel stands, number five. If you are just opinionated, marinated, you know, soaking in opinion all of the time, so locked into your own opinion, then sadly, you know, not being able to change your opinion sometimes, you will be, you’ll be wrong. Sometimes if I’m just ruled by my opinion, I’m gonna be wrong, so I can imprison myself when it comes to potential, possibility.
And so, let’s not ever be people who get too locked up in our own opinion. Opinions change, counsel stands, I mentioned. It’s amazing how many things where, you know, what I thought was so important when I was younger, now the 61 year version of me, I’m still the same person, but I gotta tell you some of my ideals have changed dramatically. Some of my ideals have changed dramatically just by being more seasoned in life, and less judgmental of other people, and less idealistic about how everything should be. And, you know, I think sometimes in younger people, it’s a trap, it’s a danger, and it actually, it’s toxic, basically. It’s toxic so it will cut you off, again, from possibility.
And number six, opinion shrinks, counsel enlarges. So opinion will shrink your life and it will shrink your possibilities. I’ve talked a lot about this but Proverbs chapter 1, verse 30 and 31 says, ‘They would have none of my counsel and despised my every rebuke, therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way.’ Put another way, they get what they deserve because, ‘They would have none of the counsel, despise my every rebuke, therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way.’
Can I say to all of us, you know, there are times in life no matter how wise you are where if we all got the fruit of our own way, it’s called reaping what you sow, life would be pretty sorry. We ought to thank God for the grace of God but we also need to make sure we never live our lives so ruled on the front foot, crash and barge, with opinion that we don’t understand the kind of counsel that will keep you on course and you end up eating the fruit of your own way, the Bible says, and be filled to the full with your own fancies.
You know, opinion is for strangers, number seven. Counsel comes from friends and I believe counsel is, if you like, the currency of friendship. Opinion is the currency of crowds and a church should be built on Godly counsel whereas a crowd, often, is built on opinion. You know what? We’re not here to be a pack of strangers with a million opinions. We’re here to be a family. We’re here to be a community. We’re basically friends. We’re in relationship and if we live our lives in relationship, and in friendship and in community, then absolutely we respect each other. We actually invite, we invite other people’s thoughts, other people counsel in our lives. We listen, we learn, we grow.
But the slam, and crash, and bang, that sadly, sometimes, Christians feel they have the right to, if you do live your life that way, even at a small level with your friends, with your family, with your husband, with your wife, inside any kind of connections or group you have, you are seriously limiting your life because your opinion will blind you, it will keep you small and ultimately, it’s the smallness in a person who feels so fiercely that they have to be able to inflict their opinion on everybody everywhere all the time.
So, it’s wisdom that builds the house and I don’t believe Godly wisdom is ruled by opinion. And if you invite really Godly counsel into your lives, you’re gonna get what a friend will give you. The Scripture talks about the kisses of an enemy and the truth is, friendship, sometimes, you know, if you’re open, you want counsel. We’re not good in putting each other down and saying mean things to each other. And you know, it’s a Godly grace to be able to tell the truth with love, but I do believe that anyone who’s not open to counsel, they tend to be very filled with opinion and well, just won’t ever enter into all God’s got for them.
I think there are keys to sanctified opinion and Godly counsel, and one of those things is value yourself and value others, cause I already mentioned Romans chapter 12, verse 3, that talks about the person who thinks more highly of themself, and I think the person who thinks more highly of themself tends to get filled with their own opinion, but the person who thinks so lowly of themselves, they are insecure.
And so sometimes, you know, the person, who wants to prove that they’re not a ‘yes’ man, so they have to be a ‘no’ man, they’re not the kind of person who you’d ever want on a board because they don’t come with perspective, Godly perspective. They come like policemen and they feel big if they can say no to stuff and feel small if they feel like they’re a ‘yes’ man. And so, I would really encourage everybody here to understand the importance of having the right value. When it comes to you, don’t think too much, don’t think too little, and sadly, some people they just think too often of themselves. Just don’t think about yourself so much at all. Let’s start thinking about other people. Think about the people in our world.
Opinions comes from two poles, thinking too much of yourself, or thinking too little of yourself. And the other thing I think, if you want to have sanctified opinion, and Godly counsel is live your life big spirited. Be a big spirited person. The smaller your world, the bigger your opinion.
And you know, sometimes in life if you find yourself sweating the small stuff, I mean if I think of, you know, the kind of thing that you might hear as a pastor. ‘You know, I went to Hillsong Church, they sang one song, I never heard Jesus once. I never heard Jesus once. I heard Brian Houston do a leadership teaching, he never mentioned Jesus once.’ You know, it’s an amazing thing because anyone who really truly comes to our church knows that Jesus, you know, Jesus gets a pretty regular mention in pretty well every song we write.
So, here’s the point; do you know the Book of Esther in the Bible never mentions the name of God once? God, the Lord, Spirit of the Lord, obviously Jesus, not once. You’re gonna write the whole book out of the Bible? See, small people make these big judgments, and sadly, in Christianity, sometimes it’s just far too prevalent that people live their lives small spirited because that’s what it is.
And do you know what? I think sometimes if we’re gonna live our lives as sanctified in opinion and Godly counsel, then I think, you know, we really prove our loyalty to each other when we have a spirit that invites counsel. The Scripture talks about a multitude of counsel. A multitude of counsel doesn’t mean you got a million different voices, but it does mean that you’re open to a spirit of counsel, but the Scripture never ever talks about a multitude of opinions, cause a multitude of opinions will never build anything. If you believe it say, ‘amen.’
So, why do I take time? Why do I take time to talk on subjects like that is because, you know, to be honest with you, I think it all helps us build our own lives but in a church, it’s invaluable. If you care about the soul of a church, ‘Beloved I wish above all else that you prosper, be in good health the same way as your soul prospers.’
I’m talking to the soul of our church and if that’s in good health, then the church will flourish in the same way as its soul flourishes. Little things like that are the things that make all the difference to the soul of a church, and it’s the things that make all the difference to the soul in your own life as well.
So, come on, let’s sometimes die to our opinion or know when it’s right to hold our opinion and live our lives with an openness to Godly counsel. Praise God.
Well, tonight you were included in the heart and soul meeting of our church. I believe that every church has a soul just like we are ourselves have a soul and if the soul of the church is in good spirits and in good heart, then the church itself will be flourishing as well. So, I also had the chance to speak to you and it means a lot to me to see people building their lives by Godly counsel because I really feel that we live in a world that’s so saturated with opinion and we get it, of course, on the web. We get it so many other places, but you’ll never build your life on opinion but you will build it by inviting counsel.”
Brian Houston is known for deceiving and abusing the trust so readily given to him by faithful people. It has emerged from the Royal Commision that Mr Houston told one thing to Ps. Barbara Taylor and testified something else to the Royal Commission.
Brian Houston swore on the bible at the Royal Commission. Do you think he should have done this?
The Royal Commission (RC) proceedings provide a rare glimpse into the way Brian Houston operates behind the scenes as a ‘Christian leader’. A sad, sorry “meeting” at McDonalds between victim AHA (see Report of Case Study No. 18, section 2.2) and Frank with a family friend assisting Frank back in the year 2000, is an example of how Brian can spin the same event two ways to suit himself:
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”is a quotation from the 1599/ 1600 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. It has been used as a figure of speech, in various phrasings, to describe someone’s too frequent and vehement attempts to convince others of some matter of which the opposite is true, thereby making themselves appear defensive, and insincere.” [Source]
Women’s Weekly have done a respectable job interviewing and covering a story of Brian and Bobbie Houston of the Hillsong church. This story was publicised and endorsed by Bobbie Houston herself.
I was a little nervous about this – but big pic it’s lovely. It was in context of my coming book “The Sisterhood”. Thank you to the Aust Women’s Weekly (and Juliet Rieden) for asking, for allowing me to meet you, have you in my home, have a few laughs … and in essence share my faith. And of course, the real miracle of “the Sisterhood” is in the THOUSANDS OF FABULOUS EVERYDAY AUSSIE WOMEN (& GIRLS) whose story this is. God bless you. #TheSisterhoodBook
Source: Bobbie Houston, Instagram, https://www.instagram.com/p/BB6AYZXIYwi/, Published 18/02/2016. (Accessed 02/03/2016.)
We will be tackling other aspects of this Women’s Weekly magazinereport in future articles. One of the biggest issues in the article we want to address now is Hillsong’s anti-biblical stance on homosexuality.
“[Homosexuality] is a dilemma because the Bible’s quite clear about some of the parameters that belong to those in leadership. And we’re still figuring it out… We want to bridge all the divides in society and I think that’s one of the final divides.”
Source: Bobbie Houston, Australian Women’s Weekly, We’re Not A Cult, March Issue, 2016.
Here is the first page of the “Special Report” from Women’s Weekly:
Here is an excerpt from the Australian Women’s Weekly:
What really goes on at a Hillsong service
Every Sunday, more than 10,000 parishioners descend on the Hillsong chapel in Baulkham Hills – we investigate what they’re coming for.
It’s a bright Sunday morning in Baulkham Hills and already the traffic is backed up on the Solent Circuit. Smiling teens in high-visibility orange vests and back-to-front baseball caps embroidered with Y & F – Young and Free – have been directing cars for hours.
They are all heading the same way; to the Hills Campus to take part in uproarious worship at one of the four capacity services at the Hillsong convention centre and chapel.
Every Sunday, more than 10,000 parishioners descend on this hallowed quadrant in the Business Park in Sydney’s north-west, some by car, some in the church’s private buses, and significantly more will be tuning in via Hillsong TV from all over the country and the world.
Seventy-five per cent of the church’s followers are under 35 and 91 per cent under 50. They come perhaps for the razzamatazz that has made Hillsong Australia’s fastest-growing church. Whatever they come for, it’s working.
At 11am, the crowds move inside in waves, eager to nab the best seats. It’s a vast arena with stacked rows of seating around an apron stage. Immediately in front of the podium, overexcited teens fresh from summer youth camps swap complex handshakes and whoop and holler.
And then the lights dim and the music starts. The stage comes alive with a flashing light show. Images of the heavens, of water, of palm trees flash across the central screen, which is surrounded by stars and circles of beaming neon tubing. Meanwhile, the 14-strong band pumps out classics from Hillsong’s repertoire. “Holy, Holy, Holy is your name,” they sing as the crowd wave their arms and sway to the beat.
With parishioners drunk on the music, the service kicks off. First are the prayer lists, specific messages from people eager to get a special hotline to God and then a call for tithes and offerings as buckets are passed along each row. On the screen, there are details outlining the ways you can give – via the envelope on your chair, online, via the Hillsong app, BPAY.
A Youth Leader bounces onto the stage and introduces young student Jasmine, who retells her revelation of speaking in tongues at last week’s youth camp, to loud applause. Next is an advertisement for the Bible college next door, where would-be pastors learn their craft.
And finally the leader of Hillsong, impresario Brian Houston, dressed down in jeans and a loose white shirt, moves to the front. His rasping voice echoes around the centre. He talks about the sanctity of marriage, about spiritual solutions to human problems. His parishioners are rapt. They are rapt for more than an hour.
It’s easy to take aim at this happy, shiny group of Christians gorging on their Sunday fix of clappy worship, but one thing is clear, they all love this place and they’re all having fun.
“There’s excitement, you’re involved,” says one parishioner. “There’s praise and for a young person on a Friday or Saturday night, it’s better than going clubbing. And on a Sunday, it’s a great way to start the day.”
Read more of this story in the March issue of The Australian Women’s Weekly.
Source: By Juliet Rieden, What really goes on at a Hillsong service, Australian Women’s Weekly, http://www.aww.com.au/latest-news/celebrity/kate-winslet-settles-those-pregnancy-rumours-25774, Published 24/02/2016.
Take-Over – a hostile, tyrannical, immoral, unethical, unbiblical or illegal way in which a ‘church’ schemes, re-brands and takes over another church. The move is usually presented as a surprise and often occurs when the members of the congregation, (whether they are the pastors, elders or laymen), have no say in the matter. The take-over is presented as the best way forward for the church.[Source]
This is a very accurate definition to describe how churches like Hillsong and C3 rebrand churches into their movement. The City of Grace Church has fallen prey to a Hillsong take-over. Terry and Judith Crist have been duped by Australia’s leading con artists and cult leaders Brian and Bobbie Houston.
This is the truth: Terry and Judith Crist have not done their homework.
This article is broken into three sections, exposing the lazy journalism of Channel 9’s online report (Brian Houston speaks out on dealing with Hillsong’s nasty secret), on Hillsong Church. In section 1 we introduce the issues in Channel 9’s article. In section two we review the online report. And in section three you can examine all the sources to the material we referenced throughout our article.
Did you know that right after the Royal Commission (RC) in 2014, Brian Houston tried to claim clergy privilege, in order to protect himself from a possible police investigation (45)? Hillsong and Australian Christian Churches (ACC) are also joining this claim.
Did Brian not realise this undermines his testimony at the Royal Commission, his media statements and his book, “Live, Love, Lead”?
It takes Brian Houston to try and convince people that Hillsong believes the bible and it takes his wife Bobbie Houston to prove to people that Hillsong don’t believe the bible.
It is a fact that Brian Houston does not embrace the biblical stance on same sex issues. He has deceitfully been grooming his churches to embrace the homosexual agenda. However, since more direct pressure has been put on him to take a side, to save his brand image, Brian has to take what he calls the “conservative” stance. (He cannot afford his Hillsong record label be tarnished thus financially affected by the conservative Christian market.)
Here he is using the bible to justify why homosexuality is wrong (Transcript of Houston at the bottom:
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There is one major farce Brian Houston pulls in this show. He states,
“As far as I can see in the New Testament in the writings of the apostle Paul, homosexuality is listed as sin. So what I think doesn’t really matter, its what the Bible says that I have to live by.“
Fancy that!
Have you ever heard Brian Houston EVER stand on the bible’s authority in his sermons or on other Christian matters in the public domain?
You’re not seeing a man who stands on the Word of God because he is a Christian minister. Rather, you’re watching a man hide behind the Word of God to give the impression he follows Jesus and His teachings.
If Brian Houston honestly believes what he thinks “doesn’t really matter, its what the Bible says that I have to live by,” then what does he do with the clear “writings of the apostle Paul” on this scripture?
“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.” 1 Timothy 2:11-15
Here is his wife Pastor Bobbie Houston to prove that Brian is not “conservative” or a follower of Jesus Christ and His teachings:
Brian and Bobbie are still presenting to people what they think people want to hear, capitalising on their audience’s good will and ignorance. And Paul commands to have such frauds silenced and expelled from God’s assembly.
TRANSCRIPT
“Look the thing with gay marriage in Australia – some people won’t like me saying this – but its inevitable. Its going to happen. And Hillsong church and me personally we can live in our society. I mean the most important thing is that we are not forced to do things that would violate our conscience. I am a conservative, I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, but I also see that everyone deserves to be happy, and so where I sit is, “This is my belief” but if that’s what’s going to happen – I’m O.K. with that. We’ve got many gay people in our church and not only in Australia but around the world.
As far as I can see in the New Testament in the writings of the apostle Paul, homosexuality is listed as sin. So what I think doesn’t really matter, its what the Bible says that I have to live by. So if I was to summarise it, again, I think you’ve got to live and let live. I’m not going to try to tell everyone else how they should live their lives. But where I stand is, yes, gay marriage is, I think, between a man and a woman.
I wouldn’t have any problem if there was some form of union for gay people, you know what I’m saying, and, I’m not trying to tell everyone else how to live their lives. People believe they’re happy that way – I’m OK with it. As long as I’m OK, you’re OK with me holding onto what I believe as well.”