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Pulpit & Pen rebuke Hillsong’s lies and hypocrisy over Broadway couple coverup

26 Monday Oct 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in Brian Houston's Beliefs, Hillsong Associations, Hillsong Scandal

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Brian Houston, Carl Lentz, Hillsong, Hillsong cult, Jeff Maples, jordan hall, Josh Canfield, P&P, Pulpit & Pen, Reed Kelly

Hillsong has got some explaining to do over statements about their stance on homosexuality, as they continue to mislead the body of Christ. We have researched Brian Houston and Carl Lentz extensively these past few years and see quite clearly through their obfuscation. Hillsong have used their pulpit to subtly promote gay affirming messages, messages perceived as gay-affirming by gay “Christians” in their own church community! What on earth would make people think they would stop? Why do they continue to be so misleading?

The answer is simple.

Money. Power. Success. Influence.

All this is tied up in their musical monopoly. (Don’t worry, God only receives worship in Spirit and in Truth. He doesn’t receive it from the Hillsong den of thieves.)

So how have people responded to the Hillsong saga? Jeff Maples tackles this. But before we read this, we want to confirm one thing Maples says.

“So, while he says he believes homosexuality to be sinful he’s totally fine with homosexuals being active, vibrant members of the church, so long as they don’t hold a “leadership position.” But church membership is reserved for those who are born-again believers and are expected to act as functioning members of the body of Christ… By default, being a Church member is in and of itself, a leadership position.”

It’s even worse than what Jeff Maples actually says about Hillsong. Hillsong actively affirm that all its members are, and are to be, influential leaders in “the marketplace”. (By the way, this is NAR cult strategic methodology.) All one needs to do is watch a Hillsong Vision Sunday message and Brian Houston reinforces the idea that any Christian who does not follow the Hillsong Vision/Way will not be tolerated or considered to be a Christian by Brian Houston’s definition or standard.

Houston’s 2014 God-given “Vision” (Part 1): “New grace” scrutinised

According to Hillsong Reed Kelly and Josh Canfield ARE the new Christian. And if you have a problem with that – you will not be tolerated and you will be hated for believing Jesus Christ and His Word.

We encourage our readers to READ what Jesus said to the Pharisees and how he labels them to be no different to their fathers that murdered the prophets. It was the Pharisees that hated God’s Word and hated Christ because His authority stemmed from God’s Word. Their hatred towards Christ and His Word led them to murdering Jesus Christ and His followers.

This is what we are facing on the horizon by these cults who are becoming more intolerant and hate-filled towards the Christian faith (and have the so-called “Christian” media in their hands). Christ calls them murderers simply because in his teachings, he says that if you harbour hatred in your heart, you are no different in murdering your brother. The continual propaganda from the Hillsong pulpit is to hate and to show pity or intolerance to Christians that are not keeping up with the “spiritual Jones'”. (Just try asking them to compare Hillsong’s teachings to scripture and you’ll be labelled a ‘hater’ or worse.)

Remember what the Broadway couple said about their Hillsong leaders:

“Thankfully we are led by pastors who are grace-filled and committed to continuing to try to discern God’s will on this matter.”

[Want to make your point again here MM that you did on P&P?]

…

Heed Christ’s WARNING. Hillsong will not tolerate you as a Christian. Speak out and rebuke them now before it’s too late.


Jordan Hall writes,

Remember back when Saiko Woods told us he had talked to Lentz personally and he said he “handled this” and Dr. White was assured by Lentz they TOTALLY handled this Biblically and Pulpit & Pen were called h8rs for not believing Lentz because people who preach lies about God typically lie about other stuff, too? Ah, good times. Good times.

JordanHallFB img Josh Canfield Reed Kelly Hillsong cult

Source: Jordan Hall, Pulpit Bunker, FaceBook, https://www.facebook.com/groups/638527459548792/permalink/895248237210045/, Published 20/10/2015. (Accessed 20/10/2015.)

Jeff Maples from Pulpit & Pens writes,

Hillsong Sodomites Now Accommodated in Los Angeles

A couple months ago, a kerfuffle between Hillsong NYC’s Carl Lentz and various blogs outing the church’s mishandling of two celebrity sodomites, known as the “Broadway Boyfriends,” who are members of his church, including one who had served as choir director. The openly gay Hillsong church members, Josh Canfield and Reed Kelly, told the press back in January 2015 that they had “come out” to Hillsong leadership and that “nothing had changed” since in their relationship to the church since then, thus giving the impression that Hillsong NYC and Carl Lentz approved of their lifestyle. Though Lentz denied the accusations of accommodating an openly gay couple in his congregation, this claim wasthoroughly debunked.

Now that the brouhaha has died down, the couple appears to be back it again–only this time, in Los Angeles.

Screenshot from 2015-10-19 13:44:58

Senior pastor of Hillsong Church had this to say in response to the criticism of allowing the openly gay couple to hold a leadership position at its NYC campus,

I do believe God’s word is clear that marriage is between a man and a woman. The writings of the apostle Paul in scripture on the subject of homosexuality are also clear…So if you are gay, are you welcome at Hillsong Church? Of course! You are welcome to attend, worship with us, and participate as a congregation member with the assurance that you are personally included and accepted within our community.

So, while he says he believes homosexuality to be sinful he’s totally fine with homosexuals being active, vibrant members of the church, so long as they don’t hold a “leadership position.” But church membership is reserved for those who are born-again believers and are expected to act as functioning members of the body of Christ. Church members are expected to give and to support their local church, and to serve and proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. By default, being a Church member is in and of itself, a leadership position.

However, Brian Houston is actively encouraging unrepentant sinners, pagans, to participate in worshiping God. This is unbiblical, as Scripture says in John 4:24 “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” But unrepentant sinners do not worship in spirit and in truth. God will reject any form of worship from pagans like Reed Kelly and Josh Canfield. 1 Corinthians 10:20 says that their sacrifices of praise are offered to demons, and not to God. Therefore, why would Houston want to invite them to worship with them? Why, if you truly are a loving, bible-believing pastor, would you want to give them the false assurance that they are personally included and accepted in the body of Christ?

Hillsong LA’s lead pastor, Ben Houston, son of Senior Pastor, Brian Houston, has been largely silent on the issue. But now that Kelly and Canfield are attending his campus, will have anything to say on the subject?

We’ll see.

Source: Jeff Maples, Hillsong Sodomites Now Accommodated in Los Angeles, http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/10/19/hillsong-sodomites-now-in-los-angeles/, Published 19/10/2015. (Accessed 19/10/2015.)

Jordan Hall calls out Brian Houston & Carl Lentz as liars and Hillsong for not being a church

03 Thursday Sep 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in Brian Houston's Beliefs, Hillsong Fascism, Hillsong Scandal

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[Edit 28/08/2015 12:15pm: corrected the article and removed individuals name. We sincerely apologise for publishing this information and will make an effort to make sure information given to us will be scrutinized more thoroughly.]

Jordan Hall rightly calls out the bullying, the lies and disgusting slander Carl Lentz and Brian Houston pulled on Christianity in this below episode of Pulpit&Pen.

Jordan Hall

From http://www.pulpitandpen.org

Hall played the audio of Brian Houston the previous year, exposing the fact that Houston lied in his recent media statement in regards to the Broadway Couple’s sexual status and Hillsong leadership status. Hall then reads out the Religious News Service story that only acted as a propaganda piece to further Hillsong and allow Carl Lentz to launch a disgraceful, slanderous and malicious attack on Christian churches who do not align themselves to the Hillsong way of doing church (40:00).

Carl Lentz maliciously slandering Christian churches like his leader

Carl Lentz maliciously slandering Christian churches like his leader.

Jordan Hall points out how Carl Lentz falsely accuses the Christian church for killing homosexuals. And how Carl Lentz then uses this disgraceful attack to imply that these churches are not churches at all.

Pulpit & Pen report:

Podcast: Mohler Discusses Openly Secular – Awkward

[Link to download podcast]

In today’s episode of Pulpit & Pen, JD answers a few sincere questions and then plays audio from Albert Mohler discussing Openly Secular’s role in a football star “coming out of the closet” as an atheist – which his colleague, SEBTS President Danny Akin endorsed. Awkward. Then, JD discusses Hillsong’s “smoking gun” and attempts to sanitize Hillsong’s Downgrade.

As always, you can listen above or download and listen from SermonAudio or iTunes by clicking the links below.

Source: Jordan Hall, Podcast: Mohler Discusses Openly Secular – Awkward, Pulpit&Pen, http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/08/11/podcast-mohler-discusses-openly-secular-awkward/, Published 11/08/2015. (Accessed 24/08/2015.)

Brian Houston calls Christian pastors “intellectual pride-filled Pharisees” & “evil people”

21 Sunday Sep 2014

Posted by Nailed Truth in Uncategorized

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Brian Houston, Chris Rosebrough, dictionary, evil, hall, houston, jordan hall, modalism, Pharisees, Rosebrough

Brian Houston Hillsong theo-jelly-cal

“It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt, yes or no, Brian Houston?”

It is not uncommon to hear Brian Houston, his leadership, and Hillsong’s adoring fans telling people, “judge not lest you be judged”, and “if you are without sin, cast the first stone”. And Hillsong would say that their movement never “demonizes” Christians for questioning the powers that be. At least up until now….

Brian Houston recently tweeted the following,

Leaders goal: Toughen up and lead when the heat is on; yet stay authentic and transparent. Better days are coming!

Source: Brian Houston, @BrianCHouston, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BrianCHouston/status/500981890208129024, Published 5:26 AM – 17 Aug 2014. (Accessed 10/09/2014.)

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Live your life in a transparent & authentic way. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear & nothing to lose!

Source: Brian Houston, @BrianCHouston, Twitter,https://twitter.com/BrianCHouston/status/497431278049062912, Published 10:17 AM, 07/08/2014. (Accessed 10/08/2014.)

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Leadership doesn’t bully. – doesn’t manipulate – doesn’t ‘control’ – & doesn’t crush or diminish others! Leadership leads!

Source: Brian Houston, @BrianCHouston, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BrianCHouston/status/512647263483887616, 18/09/2014 10:00AM. (Accessed 20/09/2014.)

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Let’s see how Brian Houston went.

UNFATHOMABLE IGNORANCE 

It’s astounding to think that someone like Brian Houston can sit on an annual salary of $300,000 a year and operate out of such willful ignorance.

Brian Houston Responds To The Steve West Media Saga

Not only that, our most recent articles looked at how far removed Hillsong is from the orthodox Christian faith. The first article below is a report on how Hillsong wrote the song ‘This I believe’. The second article is a testimony of someone’s experience at Hillsong explaning how they discovered their rich historical Christian faith once they left the Hillsong bubble.

Mega-fail: Mega-church hiding under mega-rock

“I was a Christless, creedless, and clueless Christian in Hillsong”: A testimony of God’s grace.

With all this in mind, we can begin to understand where Brian Houston is speaking from.

 THE ‘DEMONIZING’ INTENSIFIES:

Below, Brian Houston tweeted lyrics from his church’s latest song, “This I Believe”.

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A commenter, Matt Rollings responded to Brian Houston’s tweet.

@BrianCHouston Words matter. You do know modalists affirm the same, right? @piratechristian

Source: Matt Rollings, @Matt_Rollings, Twitter, https://twitter.com/matt_rollings/status/512196877391917056, 4:10 AM – 17 Sep 2014. (Accessed 20/09/2014.)

Matt Rollings summed up our thoughts exactly on the issue of this song. Furthermore, Rollings bought Pastor Christ Rosebrough from Kongsvinger Lutheran Church into the discussion, also an apologist for his radio show Fighting for the Faith.

So what was Houston’s response to Matt Rollings?

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Rollings obviously replied to Brian Houston. And Brian Houston responded with this:

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If you aren’t laughing now at least you should be raising your eyebrows with this comment. Brian, yes, you can find the word ‘modalism’ in both the Oxford Dictionary and Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary. And you most definitely find the definition of modalism in Christian encyclopedias or systematic theology books.

Obviously ‘the great white shark’ Houston felt out of his league and started chomping and thrashing around on Twitter.

proof_03Twitter-BrianInsultsMatt_17-09-2014

It is important to notice the words he used around “pharisaical”. Pride? Well, obviously. But intellectual? Being intellectual makes you a Pharisee? Weren’t the Pharisees false teachers who loved to parade a form of godliness (in a similar way before Brian Houston removed all his shocking comments from this Twitter conversation)?

By the way Brian, nothing is ever ‘deleted’ permanently from the internet i.e. your ‘deleted comments’, you do realize that? We found them as easily as we found ‘modalism’ in the dictionary. Just saying.

proof_07BrianUsesADictionary_19-09-2014

In response to @BrianCHouston, Matt Rollings introduces Prof. Nathan Busenitz (Instructor of Theology. B.A. M.Div. Th.M – The Masters Seminary) into the ring…

@BrianCHouston “religious people?” As a pastor are you not familiar with church history? http://thecripplegate.com/modalism_oneness_and_td_jakes/ … HT @nbusenitz
Source: Matt Rollings, @Matt_Rollings, Twitter, https://twitter.com/matt_rollings/status/512247653078286336, 7:32AM, 17/09/2014. (Accessed 20/09/2014.)

Ps Chris Rosebrough joined the ‘conversation’ to help explain to Brian Houston exactly what Modalism is, Matt having alerting Chris in the twitter stream as to what Houston had said earlier.

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BECAUSE HILLSONG IS OPEN TO “CONVERSATION”…

It appears about this point in time, Brian Houston blocked Matt Rollings from commenting on his wall. In response, Matt put out these tweets:

@BrianCHouston Brian, you have blocked me. I can’t respond to you. Please please!!! pick up a theology text book.

proof_04bTwitter-BrianBlockingMatt_21-09-2014

Source: Matt Rollings, @Matt_Rollings, Twitter, https://twitter.com/matt_rollings/status/512267540177776640, 8:51AM, 17/09/2014. (Accessed 20/09/2014.)

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But the conversation did not stop there. This, from the Pulpit and Pen blog site:

P&P Transcript: Brian Houston Asks if Modalism is a “Made Up Word”

The following is a transcript of a segment from Thursday’s Pulpit & Pen Program.

Brian Houston, pastor of the Hillsong United – whatever it is – “church,” had a conversation with one of my friends, Matt, from Canada “eh.” On Twitter, Brian said, “I believe in God the father, I believe in Christ the Son, I believe in the Holy Spirit. I believe all three are one.” This is Hillsong’s attempt to say, “Hey! We have a theology! We’re not watered-down and all about worship music!” And so, he’s going to show his theological prowess by affirming the Holy Trinity, and the way he phrased it left open room for interpretation. Matt says to him, “Words matter. You do know that modalists affirm the same, right?” Like, “You know that modalists can actually agree with that, right?”

So what do you think Brian Houston said? Now, he has like 354,000 people following him on Twitter. Yes, three hundred and fifty-four thousand people following him on twitter. Probably, when you count churches and people and followers throughout the world, we’re talking about a huge number of people look to this man for spiritual guidance. I’m not talking about some podunk pastor from Goober Town Arkansas (yes, there is a Goober Town, Arkansas) or Possum Grape or Bald Knob or some place like that in the middle the country. We’re talking about a huge international so-called “church.” Here’s the main guru. What do you think was [Houston’s] response when Matt was like, “Could you be more specific? Modalists agree with this.”

This is his response… This is his response; “Are you one of those religious people who make up words?” He says, “Not even a dictionary has the word modalist in it.”

Listen, if you’re a layperson I understand you may be like, “You guys are snobs, just because he doesn’t know a word.” Listen, if you’re layperson, if you don’t understand… I’m glad you listen to the Pulpit & Pen Program because you need to know what this means. But if you’re a pastor and you don’t know what the word means, get educated. A leader of worldwide movement and you don’t know what modalism is? Why are you the leader of a worldwide movement bounding off towards anything, let alone heresy? How did Brian Houston become a pastor? When Brian Houston became a pastor, did he look a lot like the guy that should have preached that night and they accidentally put him behind the podium instead? Is there a body double? Is he a Manchurian candidate?

He doesn’t know what modalism is, so he actually looks it up and he says “there are no definitions available in the dictionary for modalism?” He said [to Matt], “I don’t even see the definition anywhere? Did you mean medalist or modelist?” And then, finally his response was to (of course) block him for being one of “those religious snobs who throw around big words” like “modalist” – three syllables, for crying out loud. It’s three syllables.

Is it too much to ask that we project leaders who are people that have read a theology textbook at some point in their life? Who might know what ‘modalism’ or other major heresies are? Because you can quote the creeds all day long, Nicene Creed or the Apostle’s Creed, to make yourself sound Orthodox, but you haven’t the ability to provide an apologetic against Oneness Pentecostal heretics like TD Jakes? You see, Satan hates the Trinity – he can’t stand it – and every cult under the sun attacks the Trinity (Mormonism Jehovah’s Witnesses, etc…) every single cult attacks Trinity. So you’re the leader of a movement? Was has come of us? That’s why you, sir -Brian Houston – are in the Daily Downgrade.

Source: P&P Transcript: Brian Houston Asks if Modalism is a “Made Up Word”, Pulpit and Pen, http://pulpitandpen.org/2014/09/18/pp-transcript-brian-houston-asks-if-modalism-is-a-made-up-word/. (Accessed 19/09/2014.)

Baptist Pastor Jordan Hall notified Brian Houston of winning the daily downgrade award. Brian seemed to receive the award well…

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In the above screen grab you can read this cheeky response from Pulpit & Pen:

@BrianCHouston The P&P staff gives our apologies. What do you mean by “evil”? We can’t find it in the dictionary. Is that a word?

Source: Pulpit & Pen, PulpitAndPen, Twitter, https://twitter.com/PulpitAndPen/status/512685576579854336, 18/09/2014 12:32 PM. (Accessed 20/09/2014.) 

Brian Houston chomped back with this comment:

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Right. So Jesus refers to Christian ministers and elders as heretics in Romans and Galatians… Huh? What is Brian Houston thinking? Didn’t the Apostle Paul write Romans and Galatians under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit?

Pulpit & Pen later followed with this comment:

@BrianCHouston @drewchinski Are you sure you’re an expert on heresy to be accusing us of it? “Is Modalism a word?”

Source: Pulpit & Pen, PulpitAndPen, Twitter, https://twitter.com/PulpitAndPen/status/512708352275513344, 18/09/2014 2: 02PM. (Accessed 21/09/2014.)

Yet another twitter response to Brian Houston came from Baptist Elder Gene Clyatt:

If you’re ignorant of both theology & church history, “pastor” is not the job for you… @PulpitAndPen @BrianCHouston

Source: Gene Clyatt, @Shinar_Squirrel, Twitter, https://twitter.com/Shinar_Squirrel/status/512689297724407808, 12:47 PM – 18 Sep 2014. (Accessed 21/09/2014.)

Tony Miano from Cross Encounters also weighed in and rebuked Brian Houston,

. @BrianCHouston To which savior are you referring, Brian? Jesus of the Bible, or the false Jesus of TD Jakes?//REPENT!! (Acts 20:29-30)

Source: Tony Miano, @TonyMiano, Twitter, https://twitter.com/TonyMiano/status/512955263653908480, 6:23 AM – 19 Sep 2014. (Accessed 21/09/2014.)

Now Brian likes to think of himself as being transparent. Authentic. Rising above, when under fire. So what did you think Brian Houston did when he was ‘under fire’ by Christian pastors, brothers in Christ who rightly, and with polite restraint, corrected Brian Houston’s ignorance about modalism?

What does he do? He deletes his tweets. Calls other Christian pastors demonic.
Sounds like he has the “spirit of a pioneer”.

DOCTRINE IS IMPORTANT

So why the big kerfuffle over Brian Houston’s original statement about the Trinity? In light of Brian Houston’s ‘confusion’ about the god of Islam, former Muslim Abdul Saleeb really demonstrates why it is important for Christians to understand the Trinity in this Ligonier podcast:

Opposing Foundations

We thought we would leave you something that Matt Rollings put together with his encounter with Brian Houston.

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