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LOVE, LEAD, LIE
We noted in our previous article Brian Houston retweeting Hillsong’s tweet of their ‘Hillsong Statement’ about the A Current Affairs (ACA) report. This is what the Hillsong Tweet read:
Statement by Hillsong Church on A Current Affair story: http://hil.so/qzpw
Source: Hillsong Church, https://twitter.com/hillsong/status/590754683674853376, 10:51 PM – 21 Apr 2015. (Accessed 24/04/2015.)
We have already reviewed this “Official Statement” from Hillsong:
Which “tabloid trash” do you believe?
Brian Houston in damage control… again… and again…and again.
What occurred after Hillsong issued that statement was breathtaking.
THE REPORTER AND THE RORTER
One of the issues that the A Current Affairs report highlighted was the fact that Hillsong pressures people to give money.
Hillsong have continually lied to the general public about this issue and this is a lie that we at Church Watch have exposed repeatedly.
We would like to remind our readers that Brian Houston himself pressures his members to give money so they can be right before God and be in the will of God. (This false teaching absolutely perverts the foundational teachings of Christianity and is in fact a damnable heresy.) As you can see, Houston is scamming people financially into believing that they can only prosper in God if they give money to God/Hillsong.
On the 22nd of April, Tracy Grimshaw from A Current Affair tweeted ,
@FArimado we ask Hillsong constantly to talk to us about how the donations are spent. They will not. “If only” they would..
Source: Tracy Grimshaw, Twitter, https://twitter.com/tracygrimshaw/status/590997174332227584, 2:54 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 25/04/2015.)
It was this phrase from Brian Houston that caught our attention:
“It’s not as though ACA is known for its credibility”.
Who is lying? Who’s credibility is at stake here? Sadly, many people are tweeting that this is not a good look for a church. And as @Dan_Nolan9 observed, “Not a good look for a church – creating falsehoods in a statement accusing ACA of falsehoods”.
This because ACA responded to Hillsong’s original tweet alerting people to the Hillsong Statement. The statement claimed “the program made no attempt to contact us to get the facts – or even hear our perspective – before airing this piece of fiction”.
Ben McCormack from ACA tweeted a few times to people who accused ACA of not contacting Hillsong.
@hillsong this statement by Hillsong is false. ACA contacted the church by phone and email and we got no response.
Source: Ben McCormack, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BenMcCormack9/status/591090162039279616/photo/1, 9:04 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 25/04/2015.)
This tweet included the following evidence to prove that Hillsong’s statement was a farce:
He also tweeted later with the same attachments,
@Markedw @tracygrimshaw @hillsong we contacted them on 4 separate occasions. Don’t fall for more Hillsong dishonesty.
Source: Ben McCormack, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BenMcCormack9/status/591105999525650432, 10:07 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 25/04/2015.)
After the news team publicly exposed Hillsong for not being honest in their official Hillsong Statement, Brian Houston contacted Ben McCormack. Do you think Brian Houston apologised for his false allegation?
This exchange took place on the 23rd of April, 2015:
@benmccormack9 Hey.. How about coming to have a coffee with me one day? You got the guts to do that? Just you and me.
@BrianCHouston love to meet. Why not do an interview on camera & answer some questions too? You got the guts to do that?
@BenMcCormack9 The Q’s are not the issue. It’s your skewered editing & underhanded tactics that are the problem. So no..!
@BrianCHouston now there’s a surprise.
@BrianCHouston our offer of an interview remains open..
@BenMcCormack9 well my offer of a coffee with no hidden recording or cameras stands. It’s not as though ACA is known for its credibility!!
@BrianCHouston we live to give Brian.. Just like your followers.
You’d think that excellent leadership could check all their emails or even check with ACA, before publicly accusing ACA of lying. (Especially when the program was being advertised in advance.) Once again, we are seeing another unsound, unwise and poor leadership example in Hillsong Church.
So why should Bobbie and Brian Houston set themselves up as leadership mentors for other churches to follow?
Absolutely disgusting. If this is true ACA should go for Hill$ong like Nick Xenophon went after $cientology (and still is to this day). e.g. http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/senator-nick-xenophon-asks-regulator-to-consider-revoking-church-of-scientologys-registration-as-a-charity/story-fni6uo1m-1227296188357
Love how brian ‘tried’ to come across all manly with “you got the guts”, “just you and me” ..and then ran away with his tail between his legs.
As for brian asserting ACA ‘has no credibility’…brian..do you remember the Royal Commission? Remember when you said you didn’t know what a conflict of interest was? Remember how you hid frank houston from the police? Remember when you said Christians and muslims serve the same God? And oh, SO many other blunders, too numerous to repeat.Houston has ZERO credibility as a truthful person, even less as a ‘pastor’ .
Brian Houston: “Hey.. How about coming to have a coffee with me one day? You got the guts to do that? Just you and me.”
Sounds more like a thug in a movie, than a pastor conducting mega-church business.
What’s to hide….what’s to be ashamed of….what’s to discuss….what’s going on?
“How about coming to have a coffee with me one day? You got the guts to do that? Just you and me.”
Seriously? Brian Houston is now channelling Clint Eastwood?
Oh, that’s gold. I can see the scene in the coffee shop now:
Brian enters and sees his adversary sitting at a table. His eyes narrow as he reaches for a latte, and he hisses menacingly:
‘Uh uh. I know what you’re thinking. “Did he order that coffee with two shots or only one?” Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I kinda lost track myself. But seeing as I’m an anointed pastor, the most powerful leader in Australia that can blow you head clean off, you’ve gotta ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well, do ya, punk?’
Brian’s behaviour has been becoming more and more erratic of late, and it now appears that he has completely lost the plot. Please Brian, do yourself and all your followers a favour, and get professional help before it’s too late.
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Hillsong pastors have a thing for coffee. Joel A’Bell likes asking people out for coffee too. It’s their way of trying to silence critics.
It’s funny you bring that up just now. We think many Hillsong members can relate to the first image in our latest article:
“Hillsong pastors have a thing for coffee.”
its prolly a carryover from gloria jean’s.. nfg
Probably. Here’s the article I was thinking of.
We’ve personally experienced this. The reason why they choose this approach is because:
1. They get to select the environment they are comfortable with.
2. They get to play either their charm or intimidation on you.
3. They can say whatever they want without anyone else present.
4. They can speak on behalf of anyone without you knowing.
5. They play God cards on you to manipulate you. We’ve been told “I know you heart ‘so-and-so'”.
6. Lastly, if you do not fall for any of their tricks, they don’t force you to leave, they suggest you go somewhere else that suits what you want.
It is absolutely evil the games these men play on their victims. The Matt 18 approach is not an option. They only see this as you undermining their authority.
This means they reject God’s Word and see themselves superior to it. Sadly, all avenues are closed to humility and accountability.
Sounds about right.
They are just bullies, but outside their comfort zone they are different people. We only have to look at the video of Brian Houston at the royal commission to see how pitiful and cowardly he is when he’s not in an environment he can control.
BHouston: “Hey.. How about coming to have a coffee with me one day? You got the guts to do that? Just you and me.”
BHouston: “well my offer of a coffee with no hidden recording or cameras stands.”
When brian proclaimed at the Royal Commission that he offered counselling to Frank Houston’s sexual victims, is it any wonder they wouldn’t take it up?
This is a very good indication of the angry, paranoid, resentful, habitual behaviour of brian houston and his “counselling” techniques. The man needs help and management.