Finding a good church near you

Christians don’t want a Hillsong church. They don’t want a C3 church. They don’t want an NAR church or an emergent church. They want a faithful church that handles the Word of God correctly, preaches a biblical gospel and has pastors that faithfully love and feed the flock, defending them from ravenous wolves.

This page is dedicated to finding faithful churches, whether they be Anglican, Pentecostal, Baptist, Uniting, Reformed, Wesleyan or Presbyterian. The churches below have had often very good reports of being faithful churches. But do not take our word for it. We cannot guarantee that all the churches we have recommended are always going to be good churches. Make sure you be berean (Acts 17:11and ask yourself these questions:

1. Do they correctly handle God’s Word?

2. Do they preach the gospel?

These first two are essential. Other important things you might want to consider:

1. Is the minister approachable and open for loving correction?

2. Does the church encourage you to reason, question and grow in discernment (critical thought)?

3. Does this church hold to any creeds, confessions or catechisms and are they public, up front or transparent with what they believe?

4. Do the elders and ministers highly regard Christ’s ordinances?

5. Does the church highly regard scripture and faithfully make and mature disciples?

6. Is there unity in the faith?

7. Does the church family have healthy role models, family models and offer stron Christian community support?

Below are our recommended list of churches:

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REFORMED CHURCHES
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Grace Bible Church
Address: 10 Yuletide Street, Holland Park, QLD Australia, approximately 10 minutes drive south of the Brisbane CBD.
Times of worship: Sunday Morning – 9.00AM and 10.45AM
Sunday Evening – 5.00PM
Website: http://gracebible.org.au/

New Life Christian Church (Blacktown Christian Reformed Church)
Address: 240 Richmond RoadWoodcroft2767, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 5pm
Website: http://newlife.crca.org.au/

Christian Reformed Church of Blaxland
Address: 3 Renwick Close, Blaxland, 2774, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 5pm
Website: http://www.blaxland.crca.org.au

Reformed Church of Canberra
Address: The Chapel Rivett Shopping Center, Rivett, 2611, ACT.
Times of worship: 10:30am & 5:30pm (6:30pm – daylight saving time)
Website: http://reformed.org.au/

Christian Reformed Church of Dee Why
Address: 58 Fisher Rd, Dee Why (Opposite Kingsway), 2099, NSW.
Times of worship: 10am & 6pm
Website: http://deewhy.crca.org.au

Reformed Church of Hawkesbury
Address: 10 Paget St, Richmond, 2753, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 5pm.
Website: http://crca.org.au/

Indonesian Reformed Church
Address: 84-88 Cecil Avenue, Castle Hill, 2154, NSW.
Times of worship: 10.15 AM (Worship Service) 10.15 AM (Sunday School)
Website: http://www.ircsydney.org

Christian Reformed Church of Liverpool
Address: Cnr Kennedy & McLean Streets, Liverpool, NSW.
Times of worship: 10am & 6pm.

Christian Reformed Church of MacArthur
Address: The Northern Road, Cobbitty, 2570, NSW.
Times of Worship: 9.30am & 6pm

Newcastle Christian Reformed Church, Lake Macquarie
Address: 7 Elizabeth Street, Argenton Community Hall, Argenton, 2284, NSW.
Times of Worship: 9:30am (7 Elizabeth St Argenton)

Christian Reformed Church of Newcastle
Address: 36a Glendale Drive, Glendale, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 4pm. (5pm during Summer holidays.)

Christian Reformed Church of St Marys
Address: 74 Marsden Rd, St Marys, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 5pm
Website: http://www.stmarys.crca.org.au

Reformed Church of Sutherland
Address: 1 Elliston Place (Cnr Allies Road), Lucas Heights, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 5pm – March to November, 9:30am & 6pm – December to February.
Website: http://sutherland.crca.org.au

Christian Reformed Church of Sydney
Address: 76 Cox’s Road (Cnr Cressy Road) North Ryde, NSW.
Times of worship: 10am & 5pm.

Christian Reformed Church – Tuggeranong
Address: Isabella Plains Neighbourhood House, Isabella Plains Shops, NSW.
Times of worship: 10:30am & 5pm. (9:30am & 6pm in summer holidays)

Christian Reformed Church of Wamberal
Address: Cnr of Tumbi Road & Dashwood Close, Wamberal, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 5pm.

Christian Reformed Church of Wollongong
Address: 96 Carters Lane, Fairy Meadow, NSW.
Times of worship: 9:30am & 6pm.

Bray Park Community Church
Address: 10 Youngs Crossing Road, Bray Park, 4500, QLD.
Times of worship: 9am & 6:30pm.

Christian Reformed Church of Inala
Address: 44 Poinsettia Street, Inala, 4077, QLD.
Times of worship: 9:45am & 6pm Summer, 5pm Winter.

Christian Reformed Church of Mansfield
Address: Cnr Ham & Wishart Rds, Wishart, 4122, WLD.
Times of Worship: Family Service: 9.30am; Lighthouse Service: 7pm; Afrikaans Outreach Service: 5pm, First Sunday of the month
Website: http://www.mansfield-crc.com/

Nerang Community Church
Address: 2 Arjuna Way, Gaven, 4211, QLD.
Times of Worship: 9am
Website: http://www.nerangcommunitychurch.org.au

Redlands Christian Reformed Church
Address: 134 Delancey Street, Ormiston, 4160, QLD.
Times of Worship: 9am & 5pm
Website: http://redlandscrc.org.au

Christian Reformed Church of Tivoli
Address: 42 Church Street, Tivoli, 4305, QLD.
Times of Worship: 9.30am & 6pm

Christian Reformed Church of Toowoomba
Address: 718 Boundary Street, Glenvale, Toowoomba, 4350, QLD.
Times of Worship: 9am & 5pm.
Website: http://toowoomba.crca.org.au/; http://toowoombacrc.com/blog/

Westside Christian Church
Address: 1 Bruce Lane, Camira, 4300, QLD.
Times of Worship: 10am Weekly evening home church at various times
Website: http://westsidechristianchurch.com.au

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PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES
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Grace City Church 

We have been asked to remove the details of the church above as they have informed us they support Hillsong.

https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/2015/03/13/false-churches-are-a-blessing/

Gospel Light Evangelical Church
Address: 1186 Pacific Hwy, Pymble, 2073, NSW.
Times of Worship: 10:30am
Website: http://www.glec.com.au/home.html

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BAPTIST CHURCHES
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SOLA Church
Address: 116 Paddington Road, Paddington, 2021, NSW.
Time of Worship: 12pm
Website: http://solachurch.org.au/

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ANGLICAN CHURCHES
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EV Church
Address: 331 Terrigal Drive, Erina, NSW 2250
Times of worship: 8:30am & 10:30am
Website: http://evchurch.info/

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WATCH THIS SPACE
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(If you know of any good churches or if you can update us on any church above that is starting to derail from the Christian faith,
please email us at c3churchwatch@hotmail.com)

97 thoughts on “Finding a good church near you”

  1. newtaste said:

    One of those listed gets it’s belief statement from the Mars Hill Church website. ” What is the Gospel?
    Taken from Mars Hill (see http://
    http://www.marshillchurch.org ) ” http://newlife.crca.org.au/about-us

    So you guys are supporters of Mark Driscoll. Ironic, really.

  2. newtaste said:

    You guys make tenuous links, doing a six degrees of separation on various people to make them appear as if they are best buddies. So just joining in on your game.

  3. newtaste said:

    Brian Houston is the pastor of Hillsong Church. Mark Driscoll will be at Hillsong Conference 2015. Mark Driscoll is Reformed. You guys are Reformed. One of the churches you guys support, supports Mark Driscoll. Excellent!!

    • Newtaste – is “Six Degrees of Separation” your favourite

      If the elders of mars Hill were allowed to perform their role biblically, Mark Driscoll would have to step down and that would probably mean the end of Mars Hill Church. That would probably result in Driscoll’s invitation to Hillsong Conference 2015 being rescinded.

      Why should Mark Driscoll step down – how many disgruntled former pastors and elders does it take for people to finally get that something is WRONG with Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill?

      “Hello, my name is Mike, I’m a recovering True Believer I spent the decade after high school in single-minded devotion to a church movement that started at Mars Hill Church in Seattle. I’m now very sorry for my participation. Have you ever sat next to a bug zapper on a warm night, and just watched? An insect buzzes by and is instantly transfixed. That little light draws them in, then *bzzzzzt* — they are fried. This is my own story of getting transfixed by a pretty light and getting fried in the end. I’ve seen many friends make bad choices in their 20s. For some, regular partying quickly turned into alcoholism; for others, prescription drugs led them into dark places. For me, it was religion. You see, I’m what they call a True Believer. I really like the idea of changing the world: sacrifice for the cause, single-minded drive for the “mission,” a charismatic leader. As a 19-year-old I was the kind of guy that was the ideal follower for the crazies of history—the Mussolinis and the Hitlers. Fortunately for the world, the 21st-century version of this extremism isn’t hyper-nationalism, it is a megachurch. There’s less bloodshed than the 20th-century version, but still a lot of hurt. I thought we were changing the world This was no ordinary megachurch — it was the “fastest-growing church” in the “least-Christian city” in America. It had planted hundreds of new churches around the world — everyone knew us. I got to hang out with ABC news folks, had dinner with Bubba Watson, and met about a thousand “Christian Celebrities.” I thought we were the supreme blessing to the world. Misogyny. There, I said it. I stood idly by and willingly participated in a culture of misogyny. There could probably be books and sociological studies on the details of this, but I’d prefer to just admit one of the biggest things that I did wrong………”

      See more at: http://mikeyanderson.com/hello-name-mike-im-recovering-true-believer#sthash.1y2CJvpa.dpuf

  4. newtaste said:

    Grace City Church would appear to be a good church … and at odds with what you push. They are under the umbrella of churches founded by Terry Virgo. And Virgo is against John MacArthur and his Strange Fire anti-charismatic campaign. They believe in the continuance of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

    • You do realise that our churchwatch contributors are mainly Pentecostal and Charismatic church believers?

    • As for raising the “Strange Fire” conference and the apparent disdain for John Macarthur by Terry Virgo?

      Are you aware that Dr. Michael Brown (charismatic continuationist and good friend of Terry Virgo) and Dr. James White (Calvinist cessationist) are debaters over these issues and are very close friends, often travelling and standing together for the gospel?

      They all debate secondary issues (and they really are secondary) such as the continuationism vs cessationism position but what matters more to all these men is the Gospel, the good news about what Jesus Christ has done to reconcile sinners to God.

    • What would you say about Dr Brown being on Benny Hinn program and supporting Benny ?

    • “What would you say about Dr Brown being on Benny Hinn program and supporting Benny ?”

      Grrr…

  5. How much does it cost to advertise a church in this page?? Do we have to become a member or active contributor??

  6. could you please add Wangarattalutheranparish.org to this list, cheers and Blessings

  7. 1. Do they correctly handle God’s Word? Tick

    2. Do they preach the gospel? Tick

    These first two are essential. Other important things you might want to consider:

    1. Is the minister approachable and open for loving correction? Tick (please don’t tell anyone 😉

  8. Honestly, who gives you the ‘authority’ to suggest ‘good’ churches to attend. hello? if you are a follower of Jesus.. then WE/YOU ARE THE CHURCH!! you maybe the only bible that people you met will read. I am so so sorry that you spend your time maintaining such a web site. God does not call people to bring others down. He call us to love others, and make disciples.. to develop Jesus lovers and followers. Looks to me you are a ‘fan’ of Jesus – Not a ‘follower’.. cos we are to do what He did and In hating others or being jealous is not in his nature.. but it seems to be the fruit oozing from this website and it breaks my heart… so it must break the Lords. I even think your motto should be mirrrored back to you.. Rom 16-17 has YOU written all over it..

    • “God does not call people to bring others down.”
      Then why comment?

    • With you Dee. None of us are in a position to label churches ‘all good’ or ‘all bad’. We are recipients of God s Grace through our wonderful Jesus and should be gracious in our quest for truth. I am a visitor to Oz and have been attending Hillsong. Some of song lyrics were weird ( thank you Holy Spirit for bringing to my attention that I should discern what I offer as praise) but my following careful analysis revealed much in line with scriptural truth. Any smaller fellowships in Castle Hill that I could visit?

    • Christian Soldier said:

      “but my following careful analysis revealed much in line with scriptural truth.”

      Roger why dont you reveal what this ‘much in line’ is.

      If this ‘much’ is more than a teaspoonful I will be very surprised.

  9. martyn haggerty said:

    You talk about faithful pastors so called. The word pastor only appears once in the new testament. You cannot build a whole doctrine on one verse of Scripture. Even there it is in the context of bringing EVERYONE to the full stature of christ.
    Jesus is our shepherd. The head of the church. No other can claim headship of any kind except as an example. In the new covenant the priesthood has been done away. Pastors so called are just a priesthood by another name. “Neither he that plants nor he that waters is anything, but god that gives the increase. ” we are all one in Christ Jesus.

    • Question: “Does the Bible teach the office of pastor?”

      Answer: The word pastor comes from a Latin word which means “shepherd.” The New Testament presents two offices that constitute church leadership—elder/overseer and deacon. Paul lists the qualifications for elder/overseer in 1 Timothy 3:1–7 and Titus 1:5–9. Notice that in the 1 Timothy passage, Paul refers to them as overseers (episcopos in the Greek), and in Titus he refers to them as elders (presbuteros in Greek). From this it can be concluded that there is one office with different designations. The word elder refers to the life experience of the office holder, while the word overseer emphasizes the responsibility of the office holder to watch over the congregation and meet their spiritual needs.

      The second office is that of deacon, which is described in Acts 6:1–6. Paul outlines the qualifications of deacons in 1 Timothy 3:8–13. The deacon’s responsibility is to minister to the physical needs of the congregation, freeing up the elders to concentrate on their spiritual needs. In Acts 20:28, Paul said to the Ephesian elders, “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Notice that Paul is telling the elders (office) to be shepherds (function or role) over the church.

      In Ephesians 4:11, Paul identifies shepherding “pastors” as one function in the Church along with teaching, missionary work, evangelism, and prophecy. That this role is important is seen by the emphasis that Jesus puts on it in John 21:15–17 where Jesus charges Peter to feed and tend His sheep. How is a pastor/shepherd supposed to feed and tend the flock of God? He does this by being able to teach the flock the word of God (1 Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:9) to bring the flock into maturity, and to be resistant to heresy. He is on guard for false teachers and warns those who stray that there are consequences to their belief and behavior.

      In the New Testament, the words pastor, elder, and overseer can be used interchangeably, with each word providing a different emphasis on what contribution the leaders make to the Body of Christ. The three words come together in 1 Peter 5:1–2 where Peter exhorts elders to shepherd the flock of God and serve as overseers, caring for the flock as they wait for the Chief Shepherd.

      Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/pastor-office.html#ixzz3MP93twZW

  10. Mark Flowers said:

    Some good points on recognising a good church. 1. Do they correctly handle God’s Word?

    2. Do they preach the gospel?

    These first two are essential. Other important things you might want to consider:

    1. Is the minister approachable and open for loving correction?

    2. Does the church encourage you to reason, question and grow in discernment (critical thought)?

    3. Does this church hold to any creeds, confessions or catechisms and are they public, up front or transparent with what they believe?

    4. Do the elders and ministers highly regard Christ’s ordinances?

    5. Does the church highly regard scripture and faithfully make and mature disciples?

    6. Is there unity in the faith?

    7. Does the church family have healthy role models, family models and offer strong Christian community support?

    Could I please recommend my own church that I go to in Moscow. It’s called Hillsong Church. It is quite small stiil, only about 150 each Sunday, but it ticks all the above boxes and feels like a family. I’m very careful to check what is being preached against The Word, and nothing has gone against sound Biblical doctrine, and being small, everyone is very approachable (language issues aside being a Russian Church) including the pastor, and they have been very welcoming and made me feel at home from the moment I arrived. I have been to the huge related churches in London and Kiev, and felt lost among the multitudes, but they do have smaller groups called Connect Groups which are useful for developing relationships.

    • Mark – is the Hillsong Moscow church you attend a new church or a “assimilation’ of an existing congregation?

      Cheers, Teamchurchwatch.

    • Can you please give us examples of their sermons so we can hear for ourselves?

    • Hi Mark. As someone interested in Global happenings…Could i ask if there has been any discussion of the hillsong ‘gay question’ as Russia has quite strict laws against homosexual propaganda. Has there been any reaction from the public, or is hillsong generally left alone by the public and authorities?

  11. Am I missing something here? Hillsong Moscow is listed as a Hillsong church on Hillsong Australia’s website home page. The website for Hillsong Moscow has pictures of Brian and Bobbie all over it and the website is almost identical to the Australian one with the obvious exception of language.

    Um….why do you need examples of their sermons?

    • Confused – these churches are often autonomous. So unless Brian & Bobbie are ‘live streaming’ all the sermons, it would be interesting to see if this particular Hillsong church is actually preaching the gospel, the whole counsel of God. Given that someone who actually attends that church makes the claim of its gospel integrity, it would be interesting to hear a sermon or two.

      Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.

  12. my name is richard panuncio i am a pastor of local church here in the philliphines one of my prayer is to have a church appellieted in hillsong church to make the long story short i was loved to use christhian music sung by the hillsong united,the key the tools to win every soul in christ Jesus .the word that standard in his word . thank you God our soul revive,our calling to ministry had to have a fuell to do the will of God ,and i will use this oppurtunity to ask a help to our hillsong church pastor ,pls help us to produce church instrument to have a big church that promote Godly calling to his people in the philliphines .

  13. what about the south korea good church??

  14. “pls help us to produce church instrument to have a big church”

    You don’t need a “big church” do be effective. Maybe God wants you to have a “little church.” This is another lie that HS has forced upon the Body of Christ. Whereas many point to HS and say “See, THIS is what a church SHOULD be.” One should counter with “See, this is what a church should NOT be.” HS sold out to the world to grow a big church, rather than selling out to His Word to grow disciples.

    The net effect…. What appears to most to be “total success”, has set an unrealistic standard for all other churches, and an unrealistic expectation. Many pastors are now asking themselves “What are we doing wrong, that HS is doing right?” When HS isn’t doing ANYTHING right, they are following the world.

    And I am sick of HS music. Everybody wants to follow the HS musical style too. Listening to today’s Christian music is like turning on the telly and getting a HS commercial on every channel.

    • That ‘big’ model of church often works against quality pastoral care. Most counsellors want a smaller caseload because to care for the sick and broken hearted is so time intensive. If you’re really caring for the weak and needy at a personal level you wouldn’t want a huge crowd.

  15. Ps…. It is not the person who does “the most” for God that will be rewarded “the most”, it is the person who does “the will of The Father.”

  16. MARK 12:41-44

    41 Sitting across from the temple treasury, He watched how the crowd dropped money into the treasury. Many rich people were putting in large sums. 42 And a poor widow came and dropped in two tiny coins worth very little.] 43 Summoning His disciples, He said to them, “I assure you: This poor widow has put in more than all those giving to the temple treasury. 44 For they all gave out of their surplus, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she possessed—all she had to live on.

  17. Hey

    I can see you are quite negative about Hillsong which fills me with hope

    I’m just hoping your global dedication to condemn such a global movement lends you to have global connections and therefore a global solution?

    Can you advise what Scottish Church you would suggest?

    Thanks man

    Louise

  18. Haters gunna hate

  19. Ann Johnstone said:

    Oh wow – I have just read through this whole website, and am astounded that anyone could spend so much time running down others who are part of the Body of Christ. I note that nearly all the ‘churches’ you do recommend just happen to be of the Reformed Presbyterian persuasion, and so that adds ‘clarity to my confusion’. I am familiar with all the mainstream branches of Christendom, including Reformed Presbyterian… and also including the more overtly pentecostal/charismatic groups such as Hillsong, Planet Shakers and Audacious. The latter have been responsible for rescuing thousands of young people from ‘the world, the flesh and the devil’.

    Would I be right in suggesting that you do not agree with the ‘gifts of the Holy Spirit’, as mentioned by Paul in I Corinthians 12:7-11, being operative today (especially healing, speaking in an unknown tongue, interpretation of said tongues, discernment of spirits, miraculous powers and prophecy)? Or do you differentiate between these ‘supernatural’ gifts and other, seemingly more ‘natural’ gifts that are mentioned in the same verses, such as wisdom, knowledge and faith? Of course, in reality, all these gifts mentioned are equally supernatural, because they are all given to us via the Holy Spirit! And they are all as equally relevant today as they were ‘when the canon was completed’ 😉

    Surely it is obvious that those churches that are having the greatest influence on the world, and introducing more young people (and others) into the Kingdom of God, will be targeted for criticism! (And yes, any failures will be more publicly displayed!) It was Paul himself who said: “I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some”. How dare we criticize those who are actually doing the work! (This does not condone sin, but it does give us a strategy that will often fly in the face of conservatism.

    Let our vision be widened, and may our cry be, “May your Kingdom come, Lord Jesus!”

    • You say, “How dare we criticize those who are actually doing the work! ”

      God says, “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.” Isaiah 5:20

      If you are a Christian who knows the gospel and believes the gospel, you would not be defending the Hillsong cult.

      “Surely it is obvious that those churches that are having the greatest influence on the world, and introducing more young people (and others) into the Kingdom of God, will be targeted for criticism! ”

      Christians are persecuted for Christ’s namesake. Hillsong is criticised for blaspheming God and desecrating Christ’s Word, church and sacraments.

      You are just like many other so-called Christians who elevate man above God. You need to repent, confess your sins and turn to Calvary so that your sins may be forgiven for loving and defending Brian Houston above God and His Holy Word.

    • @ Anne Johnston
      ” I am familiar with all the mainstream branches of Christendom, including Reformed Presbyterian… and also including the more overtly pentecostal/charismatic groups such as Hillsong, Planet Shakers and Audacious. The latter have been responsible for rescuing thousands of young people from ‘the world, the flesh and the devil’.”

      …and then tossing them straight back into it – the world etcetera, that is.

      You’ve only got to look at the carnal, fleshly methods that Houston used in his take over of Garden City Church up in Brisbane some years ago, in order to understand that that particular ‘move’ was all about money and politics. Hillsong ‘corporately raided’ a local well established and somewhat respectable church that had been there for decades.

      Not everyone may agree on gifts of the Holy Spirit for today, but the Mount Gravaat AOG, as it was originally known, had respect within the local community for all of those years. Garden City Church aka Hillsong Brisbane, has virtually none…

      After ‘retraining’ the staff on “how to things the Hill$ong way” (using text messages to get staffers to respond to situations during meetings, but not being led by the Lord) repainting the building in the most drab colours imaginable, lowering the lights so people couldn’t read their own Bibles, while offering up trashy versions such as the Message on the overhead projection system… One woman who stayed there after the takeover described the new Hill$ong in Brisbane as a “shopping mall”… everything was for sale – even Jesus Christ!!!

      But everything’s OK with all of that, isn’t it Anne… and that’s just ONE Hill$ong takeover that we know about. Rebadging the body of Christ into the image of Brian and Bobbie Houston, is just another way to clone the cult followers so that they strongly resemble and emulate their woeful and wayward leaders, isn’t it?

  20. raymond said:

    “I have just read through this WHOLE website”

    I doubt your exaggeration. That would take far more time than you are obviously willing to spend.

    “Surely it is obvious that those churches that are having the greatest influence on the world, and introducing more young people (and others) into the Kingdom of God, will be targeted for criticism!”

    The Galatians’ false gospel was also targeted for criticism by another Christian, named Paul. That criticism was hardly an endorsement. Your assumption is meaningless.

  21. Ann Johnstone said:

    Correction: “… this whole webPAGE”. This is all I saw. I did not know there was a larger website. However that in no way minimizes what i SAID. Believe me, I have seen similar websites to yours before, and I find it incredibly sad that they are almost exclusively focused on picking to pieces the faults of churches whose agenda and focus differ from their own, rather than those who are clearly heretical. I am not speaking of any that preach a ‘false gospel’. That is an entirely different matter.

    All true believers are ‘one in Christ Jesus’ – that is something we all need to remember, particular in these days when we are surrounded by evil and deception. Surely we need to stand together in these troubled times, and focus on the good that is being done in our midst. I care nothing for denominations, but everything for unity in the Holy Spirit.

    Moreover, you have said nothing about where you stand on the issue of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit (I Corinthians 12:7-11), as I mentioned earlier.

    • thinker said:

      To receive the Holy Spirit a person has to be born again through faith in Jesus Christ *first*. There is no other way. If a person is not saved they cannot receive the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

      If the GOSPEL (as revealed in the bible) is not preached but *another* message is preached instead, a person who receives “gifts of the spirit” has received them from another “spirit”. There are plenty of religions whose followers “speak in tongues”, “get slain in the spirit”, receive “fire”, have visions and so on.

      Therefore this is not splitting hairs as many Hillsongees seem to think. Different message therefore different God and ultimately different destination (Hell). Does Hillsong preach the GOSPEL e.g. read Acts chapter 2 for Apostle Peter’s example.

      P.S. thinking Charismatic Andrew Strom has much needed discernment. Good general warning video for Charismatics who tend to trust signs and gifts too much.

    • thinker said:

  22. Clancy Seabrook said:

    “and I find it incredibly sad that they are almost exclusively focused on picking to pieces the faults of churches whose agenda and focus differ from their own, rather than those who are clearly heretical.”

    Hillsong isn’t heretical? Do you believe as Brian Houston does that Christians and Muslims serve the same God? Do you endorse Bobbie Houston’s book “Kingdom Women Love Sex?” Do you endorse Brian Houston’s book “You Need More Money?” Do you approve of Brian Houston thrusting all these heretics on the true Church: TD Jakes, Mark Driscoll, Joyce Meyer, Rick Warren, and Joel Osteen? How much heresy do you need in your life?

    “I am not speaking of any that preach a ‘false gospel’. That is an entirely different matter.”

    Is it? Do you believe Brian Houston preaches the true Gospel? Without his own personal success/prosperity embellishments? Do you agree with Brian Houston that the Bible is all about being as successful that you can be? Do you believe N.T. ‘tithing’ is biblical?

    Looks like your arrogant self has plenty of study work cut out for you. Go study.

  23. Chloe Ladee said:

    do you honestly have nothing better to do with your life?

    • “do you honestly have nothing better to do with your life?”

      What about Brian Houston? He is not honest, amounts to nothing, will never get better, and does not have any life in him.

      How sad it is that you yourself sound like Brian: arrogant, ignorant, and self-centred, No doubt you are pushing the pedal to the metal as you race onwards towards the lake of fire.

    • Chloe Ladee said:

      GOSH! I just find it sad that another Christian would do everything possible to ruin someones life…what happened to ‘love your neighbor as yourself’…and to ‘forgive one another’…we all make mistakes in life but under no circumstance should we (AS CHRISTIANS) try to pull each other down and humiliate one another, instead we should help one another, find the good, build each other up, let them know that God loves them and help them to correct the mistakes they have made on the journey they are on with God!!! Before you judge and try to destroy anyone else, pray to God allow him to tell you what he thinks, and take time to think about what you are doing, trying to rip people apart is exactly what saiten’s worshipers are doing, and it makes you no better! ‘Take the plank out your own eye, before you take the speck out of theirs’, Jesus loves Brian Housten (etc…), even though he makes mistakes, and so should we!

    • Chloe – our sites are dedicated to expose deviant predators who parade themselves as Christian ministers. The fact that they have convinced you they are the genuine article is ample proof that they are the wicked ones Christ personally condemned Himself in Matt 7.

      You are defending false men who are leading you down the wide road. If you are a genuine believer, you would compare the teachings of Christ to the teachings of these men.

    • “under no circumstance should we (AS CHRISTIANS) try to pull each other down”

      Brian Houston is not a Christian and neither are you, so you have nothing pertinent to say here any more that Brian has anything relevant to say from behind his lectern.

      “Jesus loves Brian Housten [sic]”

      The problem is that Brian Houston does not love Jesus.

  24. “do you honestly have nothing better to do with your life?”

    @Chloe Ladee, What is so important about your life that made you this pious?

  25. Gooniebird said:

    @Chloe Ladee: I find it ironic that you are judging people for judging Hillsong. Jesus himself says, “24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” (John 7:24)

    What does it mean to “judge with right judgement?”

    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already. Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
    (1 John 4:1-6)

    10 The brothers immediately sent Paul and Silas away by night to Berea, and when they arrived they went into the Jewish synagogue. 11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so. (Acts 17:10-11)

    We are to test what is taught to us by comparing it to Scripture. God promises there will be false prophets and false gospels that will lead people astray from the truth.

    8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8-9)

    I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 5 As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. (2 Timothy 1-5)

    10 For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. 11 They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach. 12 One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.” 13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. 16 They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. (Titus 1:10-16)

    God does not lie. Man does. Trust the Scriptures and judge rightly, discern truth from error, rebuke those who are following myths and call them to repent and believe that Christ died for their sins, trust what God has revealed to us in His word and hold fast to it.

    • I remember in the early 1980s that Frank Houston read a position paper out to the whole congregation to CLC Darlinghurst that descended as an edict from the AOG Headquarters in USA. Frank was required to read this because Andrew Evans, then superintendant of AOG Aust, passed it onto him directly. The paper warned all members against the positive confession & thinking (= Word of Faith movement).

      This position paper is still located on the AOG Headquarters website to this day.

      Brian Houston was a young minister still attending CLC Darlinghurst at that time (before his Baulkam Hills commencement). He will remember his father reading this warning out loud to the congregation.

      Brian’s prosperity teaching is blatantly in-your-face against this warning. Brian has disfranchised the AOG Headquarters overseas. Yes, I remember Brian…and he remembers me (surely). He was in-my-face “your going to a dead church” when I informed the leaders at CLC that I was transferring to an Anglican Church (Phil Jensen’s) up the road.

      Brian is a great exhorter. I describe him as a motivational-preacher. He has links to the contours of the gospel from the old days, but wouldn’t know what exegesis of Scripture is. He has so drifted towards pseudo-faith ideas over the years to demonstrate a failure for the due self-reflection on the original themes of Scripture by exegetical study required by a man-of-the-cloth (so to speak) to check his inspirational thought bubbles against God’s Word.

    • Oh how the mighty are fallen !!

  26. “I’m glad you rarely get little or no response from Hillsong…”

    Actually Jason, we got a lot of ‘reaction’ from Hil$ong trolls just this last week, with upwards of a dozen or so logging on to give us a piece of their collective minds…

    If you read those posts, you’ll see them attacking us for exposing their cult leader, his deceptively false gospel and his whole “Glad Bag” full of lies, distractions and obfuscations.

    Brian Houston couldn’t lie straight in bed, but he’s happy to do it from the pulpit in front of 20,000 plus of his acolytes and devotees every $unday morning…

    Who’s the ‘attack dog’ here Jason…?

  27. B. Layeckmeyer said:

    Jason, Even comparing Brian Houston to Nehemiah is just plain dumb !

  28. Jason Marc Debout said:

    ChurchWatch, Apollo, Brax, JBC and B. Layeckmeyer

    I am so glad that God has got such great plans for you and each and everyone of us. That we are called to a future greater than we realize, and our God is so full of grace and mercy we could never comprehend it.

    I just so believe that our God is able to do all things, including using those others wouldn’t see as worthy. And that includes me.

    I know for myself I had to come to a point where I stopped worrying about what others were doing, and made sure I was doing what God asked me to do. I am sure many of us are on this same journey. To stop worrying about what others are doing, and doing what God called us to do.

    And how do we evaluate this? With the fruit we are producing. How you evaluate that fruit is another issue.

    But let’s be more concerned about what God wants us to do whether it is business, teaching, leading, pastoring, serving or whatever. But God has a plan for each of us.

    Worrying never helped anyone that I know of. I came across this site accidently and it is awful to see Christians attacking Christians.

    God has bigger things for you and I. But worrying is not one of them.

    Love you, even when we see things differently.

    • Is it not written? said:

      “I stopped worrying about what others were doing,

      But let’s be more concerned about what God wants us to do

      Worrying never helped anyone that I know of. I came across this site accidently and it is awful to see Christians attacking Christians.”

      Paul was immediate (and not slack nor compromising) to correct ALL error, whether it was DOCTRINAL or SIN. We are commanded to do the same. We are obligated to follow “ALL” the Scriptures, not only the “LOVE” Scriptures.

      — 2 TIM 3:16: Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for instruction, for conviction, for CORRECTION, and for training in righteousness,

      — ROM 16:17: Now I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and obstacles that are contrary to the TEACHING you have learned. Turn away from them.

      — 1 TIM 5:20: But those elders who are sinning you are to REPROVE BEFORE EVERYONE, so that the others may take warning.

      — GAL 2:11: But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face because he stood condemned.

      ….

      “To stop worrying about what others are doing, and doing what God called us to do.”

      — JER 8:17: I appointed watchmen over you and said, ‘Listen to the sound of the trumpet!’ But you said, ‘We will not listen.’

      — GEN 4:9: Then the LORD said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know; am I my brother’s keeper?”

    • Why do you label genuine concern for other Christians/ potential believers as “worrying”? Were the apostles just being worrywarts when they warned the early churches against false teachers? Should they have just trusted God to deal with false teachers as well and done nothing (as you recommend)? Would you say the same type of thing to church writers who fought against heretics?

      So you feel no desire to defend the Christian faith… perhaps that is genuinely NOT your role in the Christian church. But then to come to a Christian website to tell people to stop telling the truth because God wants them to worry about bigger things…
      Which God/ God are you listening to? Are you listening to an inner voice or are you reading the bible in context, not fortune cookie style?!

    • “I am so glad that God has got such great plans for you and each and everyone of us.”

      God has formed some vessels for honorable use and some for ignoble use. Brian Houston falls into the latter category, so the “great plans” for him are that he is an object of wrath that was made for destruction in order that God could reveal his power. Brian Houston cannot change his destiny, nor can you, no matter how much you wish it so. If you are determined to join Brian in the place that will be his rightful eternal abode, then so be it.

      “and our God is so full of grace and mercy we could never comprehend it.”

      It’s certainly true that Brian Houston cannot comprehend it; that’s why he has never accepted that grace and mercy.

      “I just so believe that our God is able to do all things”

      Yes he is, but according to His will – not according to your vain imaginings and presumptuous utterings.

      “including using those others wouldn’t see as worthy.”

      Brian Houston’s problem is not that he is unworthy, but that he is in fact unregenerate. If some are unable to discern that, it could only be because they themselves are also unregenerate.

      “Worrying never helped anyone that I know of.”

      Brian Houston thinks he’s a big man, but on God’s scales he’s less than a dust mite. Brian rages against the Most High and puts a stumbling block in the path of those who would seek Him, but God just laughs – He holds Brian and the hillsong cult in derision. God has appointed a day when he shall demand answers of Brian, and on that day Brian will be compelled to answer. So if God Himself doesn’t worry about Brian Houston, what makes you think that I would?

      “I came across this site accidentally and it is awful to see Christians attacking Christians.”

      Except that Brian Houston is not a Christian.

      “God has bigger things for you and I.”

      I know he does. Unfortunately, the “bigger things” he has for you are big flames.

      “Love you, even when we see things differently.”

      Oh, how sweet! I’m going to think of you as Sergeant Schmalz from Bogan’s Heroes, whose catch-cry is “I know NUSSING!”

    • Kenny Abrams said:

      “and our God is so full of grace and mercy we could never comprehend it.”

      Neither can anyone comprehend God’s wrath coming for the Goats and Tares.

      “Brian Houston thinks he’s a big man, but on God’s scales he’s less than a dust mite.”

      So true. Brian Houston needs to read the Old Testament sometime, since many of those verses are also applicable to him…

      Daniel 5:27: “TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.”

  29. Well, if our detractors don’t like ”our” kind of church, then maybe they’d like to go to this particular ‘church’ next Sunday…

    Oh, what’s that CW? They already do…? Well I’d like to see that, wouldn’t you?:

    • jackson w. roygo said:

      One would assume the weakest and most superficial Christians (as those portrayed in this video) will be the quickest to fall away (the low-hanging fruit so to speak).

      ‘Experiences’ and darkened loud ‘worship services’ aint gonna cut it.

      Every Christian must have a firm footing in the Bible…. for themselves.

    • As you can see Jackson, Brian is using a new mouth wash (in the still frame clip up above) – it’s called “Newtaste”, and he uses it regularly to blow hot air on this blog… He really shouldn’t be smoking near such an inflamatory liquid…

      WARNING – the Theologian General has determined that the “NEWTASTE” brand of mouthwash could become inflamatory with overuse. If you feel that this situation may happen to you, discontinue useage and seek advice from your Pastorologist…”

    • jackson w. roygo said:

      Ah yes newtaste. The catholic-hillsong cheerleader who makes post after post however never quotes the Bible . Not sure what he learns at hillsong. They clearly aint teaching him the Bible.

  30. Is this really a website dedicated to exposing other churches? I am a church planter and thought this was already being done by the world. Just curious how many people could be reached that are lost with this same passion and zeal being used to smear the body of Christ. Church Watch? seriously? You wont hear from me again..Im not interested in a debate…Just wanted you guys to know how much you are hurting not only the local church…but inevitably grieving the one who shed His blood for the church….the only righteous judge. Tip, Start focusing on reaching, loving and forgiving instead of damning, judging and dividing. Please put my church on your list for ones to look out for in Richmond, Va. Thanks

    • @Apollo and Thinker – would you like to respond to this (even though he says he won’t be back)?

    • CW – I agree that a response should be made.

      “Just wanted you guys to know how much you are hurting not only the local church…”

      Josh, the local church can be best served by sharing with them just how detrimental false teachers are:

      “29 I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock;

      30 and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.… Acts 20:29,30

      Paul himself warned the church and it would be derelict of us if we didn’t do the same.

      “but inevitably grieving the one who shed His blood for the church”

      And yet Josh, Jesus aid Himself in Revelation 2:

      “14 Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin so that they ate food sacrificed to idols and committed sexual immorality.

      15 Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans.

      16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.”

      Christ ‘smeared’ the church in Pergamos, because they held to false teaching that encouraged the congregation to indulge in gross forms of sin. He also rebuked them for having the ‘doctrine of the Nicolaitins’. That doctrine established “power over the laity” and created a priest class, that was separate to the rank and file members of the church.

      I fully agree with recognised and qualified leadership, but I don’t agree with a group of false prophets, who stand as a barrier to those who would enter into the fullness that God has for them. There’s a major difference between good shepherds and legalistic Pharisees.

      13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in…” Matthew 23:12,13

      And this is the major problem with groups like Hill$ong. The leaders don’t enter in (because they’d have to publicly repent of many sins and falsehoods before doing so), and because their fake ‘Christianity’, lavish lifestyles and false gospel, they actually prevent others from entering into full and proper salvation as well.

      Essentially, they produce a whole harvest of tares (false converts) and then proceed to milk them for all they can get.

      If you don’t know these things Josh, then just what kind of preparations are you making to protect all of those churches that you claim to have been planting???

    • “If you don’t know these things Josh, then just what kind of preparations are you making to protect all of those churches that you claim to have been planting???”

      Excellent suggestion, Apollo…. I wonder what this Josh is doing to protect his own flocks…. Acts 20:29-30 says:

      “I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.”

    • There is more to church planting than fresh converts. A negligent church planter merely plants seeds and then makes seedlings fend for themselves. Correct levels of water and sun are only part of it.

      e.g. in my garden have terrible problem with lower neighbour’s parasite vine’s roots coming up in all different spots. Have attacked them, poisoned them, finally think I’ve defeated it and then after decent rain it pops up in another place yet again …grrrr. (The very poorly kept garden was one of many reasons the house was cheaper than other houses in area).

      If the church just lets a problem vine (e.g. false teacher) grow how IT wants to in the garden (not protect church members by exposing them and kicking them out) it will eventually strangle the rest of the living plants in the area ( severely damage spiritual lives of congregations/ prevent true converts getting strong).

      Christians should be applauding the “gardeners” trying to kill (what I call) “enemy vines”, not abusing them for trying to “rescue the garden” because they can’t see past “the pretty flowers”.

      You need more than most people to identify false teachers/ false converts to keep your newly planted church/es safe. Prevention is better than cure.

      http://www.devcobaptist.org/273102

    • We’re not damning Josh – the false gospels of these men do the dividing and the damning. We just show people how these false converts have marked themselves.

      We do wonder if you really genuinely consider yourself a church planter. Otherwise you’d appreciate us for exposing and fending off garden pests so you can scatter seed to produce great crop.

    • “Is this really a website dedicated to exposing other churches? I am a church planter and thought this was already being done by the world.”

      There are at least 500-1000 of these websites and blogs, in English alone. Additionally, there are many others in Spanish, Russian, Swedish and Finnish. All by different Christians. That does not include other Christian forums discussing these problems. You ought to need to begin seeking the guidance of the Holy Spirit on this area, because although it is being discussed by many of us, most are still unaware, and it affects us all.

      “smear the body of Christ”

      If you truly believe that, then you might start referring to Paul as the first “smearer.”

      “Tip, Start focusing on reaching, loving and forgiving instead of damning, judging and dividing.”

      Now a tip for you. The apostate individuals and organizations being discussed in the 500-1000 websites (such as Hillsong) are the damners and dividers. Those are the ones spreading damning false gospels and teaching divisive false teachings. All the websites I’ve found exposing this have been very adamant on sticking to Sola Scriptura, something Hillsong and the other fallen have no interest in.

  31. I keep reading statements such as “They aren’t real Christians!” “The flames is where they’ll end up” -When the truth is, no one knows the heart of man except God. Matthew 24:36 states that “36“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” Do you really think that you have the right to judge someone’s soul and label them a “real” Christian or not? If not even the Angels in heaven nor Jesus know when He will be called upon to come back for HIS church- what “special right” does someone have to tell you if you’re going to heaven or not other than the Father himself. It’s a completely different story to say you don’t agree with them. Or even to call someone out on what you feel is wrong in their teachings. I’m sure if more people in the world did that then we’d be less likely to even have to make websites declaring our opinions ever so harshly. But to state you know the heart of a man based on the same level that the THE ONE GOD does- that’s a whole new level. Even based off of someone’s actions, you don’t have that right. They may have had many nights crying out to the Lord and still have an issue- that’s where grace comes in. It’s not our place to say they’ll burn in hell for something we think they should be not doing or over by now. It’s the Lords and His alone.

    When I first read this I was filled with anger honestly. At the thought that the body has come to such a place that it fell into Satans trap of such a divisive nature. But then I was filled with grief. Because your mission has no longer been to just feel the need to warn your brothers and sisters in Christ, which is a noble cause. But to condem anyone who doesn’t agree with you to hell and revel in it.

    • Hi Emma – Jesus said we judge the ‘tree’ (ministry, church individual) by their fruit in Matthew 7:13+.

      That ‘fruit’ is the fruit of the Holy Spirit that is worked into the life of the believer, by the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit:

      “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.” Galatians 5:22

      Trees that produce no fruit for the kingdom are cursed by Jesus:

      “18 Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.

      19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.

      20 And when the disciples saw it, they marvelled, saying, How soon is the fig tree withered away!” Matthew 21:18-20

      So, if we see a “tree” in the form of a minstry, church or indiviual that is not fruit bearing in the ways of God, then we can avoid it, assuming that God has cursed it, for not being faithful to His word, or His ways.

      It’s not about having a ‘special right’ to judge others. If they and their teaching don’t line up with the word of God, rightly divided, then it is God’s word that is judging them – not us!

      How do we know a person’s heart? Scripture tells us:

      “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.” Matthew 15:18

      So by what a person teaches, or prophesies, we can know them, for it is God who is revealing their heart…

      “When I first read this I was filled with anger honestly. At the thought that the body has come to such a place that it fell into Satans trap of such a divisive nature.”

      Well Emma, Jesus did not come and die so we could get rich, be healthy, have influence, or build blashemous and idolitrous mega churches. Anyone who wants to defend that rubbish is a false teacher, and they are headed for Hell, unless they repent.

      Jesus died that we might be free from our sins and enjoy fellowship with God forever, and anything less than that, is a false gospel… Anyone who adds ‘works’ to faith in order to gain salvation, is also preaching a false Gospel.

      Paul pronounced a curse on those kinds of false prophets too:

      “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed…” Galatians 1:8

      Emma, there’s nothing to be angry with us about – we are merely doing what God’s word commands us to do – expose the unfruitful works of darkness – within the church. Ephesians 5:11

    • ‘But then I was filled with grief. Because your mission has no longer been to just feel the need to warn your brothers and sisters in Christ …’

      Brian Houston is not a “brother” in Christ, nor is Bobbie Houston a “sister”. They and all of their fellow-travellers are nothing more than money-grubbing frauds; that is to say, they are unregenerate idolaters who make merchandise of the Gospel, and who, in the process, spend their days and nights blaspheming the Most High. These people have been warned again and again, but in their arrogance they dismiss their detractors and continue to unceasingly calumnify the Creator. They have no fear of God whatsoever, and they are in grave danger of hardening their hearts to the point where they are simply unable to repent (if indeed they are not already in that state).

      So yes, Emma, these impostors are most certainly going to bear God’s wrath, and they will burn in eternity as a result. And if you are filled with grief, it could only be because you are cut from the very same cloth as these goats – you are someone who hates the truth and loves the lie, and so you have been handed over by God to a strong delusion. It looks like you are willing to follow these fakers anywhere – will you follow them all the way to the lake of fire?

    • fred 21006 said:

      “When I first read this I was filled with anger honestly.”

      Why are you angered by the truth Emma? What does that say about your spiritual condition?

  32. I was sitting in a coffee shop looking through some of your articles and had to laugh at your qualities for a good church, with one of them being, ‘a leader who is open to loving correction’. Really? That’s one of the things we should look for in a church, a minister we can ‘put right’? Wow!

    • 1 Timothy 5:19-21(ESV)

      “Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels I charge you to keep these rules without prejudging, doing nothing from partiality.”

      An elder is another title for pastor.

      Cheers, Team ChurchWatch.

    • dennis doorskie said:

      “had to laugh at your qualities for a good church, with one of them being, ‘a leader who is open to loving correction’. Really? That’s one of the things we should look for in a church, a minister we can ‘put right’? Wow!”

      How funny, you have the same arrogant attitude as Brian Houston.

      Hey, Brian does some of his best thinking in coffee shops, just like you. “Let those nasty bloggers try to put ME right, if they have the guts for it!”

  33. EV Church on the Central Coast is not an Anglican Church

    • What is it now?

    • EV was started by an Anglican minister and is a great church to attend. For those interested, it’s conservative and complementarian in theological view, with men and women having different but complementary roles and responsibilities in marriage, family life, religious leadership, and elsewhere. We have friends who attend by the way.

      Cheers, Team Churchwatch.

  34. Strange that I find here a list of churches we should go to where they partly preach unbiblical things as well: infant baptism, no more miracles according to them unless for the gentiles, no gifts of the Holy Spirit, no more Prophecies, all putting more importance on creeds,catechisms than on the Bible, some of them making one translation Holier than others (KJV/Statenvertaling etc). And funny: the points you gave as making a church the right one to choose, well, believe it or not, by I find that in Hillsong as well. I was 5 years with Hillsong and are not longer there, but I definately don’t agree with the things you write, It sounds like “stealing sheep” instead of rescuing goats…. but I know, the reformed churches have a tradition of telling that other churches are always bad…. it was one of the reasons I left them….

    • “It sounds like “stealing sheep” instead of rescuing goats….”
      Actually – Hillsong have been notorious for doing that since its inception with Frank Houston back in 1977.

      How else do you think they got so big?

      “the reformed churches have a tradition of telling that other churches are always bad”

      Clearly you have not listened to ANY sermon given by Brian Houston. We have never heard of a man who hates Christians and churches so much he preaches against them nearly in every sermon.

      If you want to send yourself to hell by believing the Hillsong gospel, go for it. All we can do is warn.

      “it was one of the reasons I left them….”
      Not true. You left because you hate the Word of God.

  35. you guys are idiots that no nothing of life hahaha!!! sorry i do mean that it in love.
    please let me know when you help someone that was continuously rapped by her stepfather or someone whose wife has left him for a younger guy or someone that is struggling with drug addiction, and help them be a true disciple of jesus.. just then you can advise me on church 🙂 peace! and please stop the judgment you are in no position of “warning” go help someone next to you and deal with your own sins and errors. God is the one who will judge and if he is Sovereign then i guess he knows what he is doing… instead of failing in the same way Hillsong has, getting people from other churches to theirs (you are doing the same thing here buddy), go and tell people in your city that jesus loves them.
    hey but it was entertaining reading your webpage, but seriously you should at least name it different hahaha

    ps im a big fan of Carl Lentz hehe

    • Many other religions and cults do charitable acts. No-one on here has to prove themselves to you, just like you don’t have to do that either. If you read all of the bible you’ll see Christians are commanded to defend the faith.

      If you genuinely want a good church look for one which proves its belief in the bible via preaching from the bible *in context*. Proper preaching from the bible will show and explain Jesus’ love for you through His death on the cross for you in much greater detail.

      P.S.The current level of literacy you demonstrated makes your expression of devotion towards Lentz vey easy to believe….. 🙂

    • “ps im a big fan of Carl Lentz hehe”

      Yeah we could tell. You don’t take the Bible any more seriously than Jokin’ Carl does. Jokin’ Carl doesn’t take the Bible seriously either.

      On Judgement Day you both will find out how funny you really are. Haha.