This page is dedicated to the testimonies of people who have left the international Hillsong cult.
HILLSONG SYDNEY
The story of Tanya Levins,
Denton Interviews Levins On Hillsong: “I was detoxed from toxic Christianity”
The story of Steve West,
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 1)
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 2)
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 3)
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 4)
When Steve West Went To The Media
Brian Houston Responds To The Steve West Media Saga
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 5)
Aaron writes,
The church I’ve been attending for the last 4-5 years in the Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania (Allentown/Bethlehem) joined the HS network without informing the congregation. Through sheer God-given observation, I was able to discern that something had changed so I went on a search…found this site and found that HS had such a “network”. Shot a text to our associate pastor and sure enough he confirmed that our church had joined.
I made all of these observations after visiting HS NYC in Oct 2014 by request of my wife when I decided to go visit the city during my birthday. It was a Sunday and she didn’t want to miss church. I knew nothing of HS other than the music so I said why not. The thing that got me was the FLAWLESS similarity in their respective service compared to where I’ve been attending. At the age of 32, I don’t consider anything to be that coincidental so I started digging…
Found this website and a whole variety of other puzzle pieces that have since helped me understand the danger in the seeker friendly movement. Up to that point I just wasn’t aware.
The church I’m referring to is called Life Church and can be found at lifechurchlv.org
Last month they had the “speak lord, we’re listening” theme and graphics all over the site and all over the church. It’s not on the site now but just look at the church’s branding logo. It’s a total HS rip.
After not wanting to just bail on the place I’ve called home, I decided to have lunch with as many leaders (both official and lay) and present to them the falsehoods showing up in HS teachings. I had very low expectations and I wasn’t disappointed. Every leader basically rejected me and told me to stop spreading dissension. One bright spot, however…the youth leader met with me and told me he had already left for many of the same reasons and he served there for roughly 18 years. He emphatically called the church a “graveyard”. I didn’t notice his departure because the church is so big you don’t know if someone is there or not.
All in all, I have totally left that church and I am now in a place of general church disillusionment. There are a lot of churches around here to attend but I can smell seeker-friendly in everyone that I’ve visited. I felt deceived that the decision to join their network was not announced to the congregation. I also felt like my God-given gifts of perception and discernment were being minimized and silenced. The head pastor, although charming and very likeable, is a spiritual tyrant. It’s his church and his show. You don’t like it, leave because “it only makes room for new people”.
I appreciate what you’re doing here in this site. Keep up the good work.
Source: Aaron, Why Hillsong music is dangerous to sing in your church: updated., Hillsong Church Watch, https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/2015/01/31/why-hillsong-music-is-dangerous-to-sing-in-your-church/#comment-16312, Published 10/02/2015, 1:44am. (Accessed 11/02/2015.)
Anna Glen writes,
Came to know the Lord via Hills Christian Life Center, Baulkham Hills (now Hillsong Church, Norwest? Castle Hill) 1994. Almost lost my faith via Hills Christian Center because of the the bullying and Harassment which my faith was constantly under attack because my husband chose not to hear the word of God at the time and I would not or could not speak in tongues and I would question the validity of tongues with no one to interperate but a couple hundred people babbling at once and that was a no no ” You have no Faith or are Lacking in Faith”.
No Thanks to Hills, and all thanks, Praise and Glory to our Lord Jesus Christ He Kept me, carried me, Loved me and showed me many things during this depressive time and still is.
I am still having issues with “Churches” and have not been to one for many years and it’s Human lonely.
In regards to my husband I am blessed to say he ask Jesus into his life this year! We can sow the seed but the Holy Spirit makes it grow! Some come quick to the Lord others the Lord has to work on First!
Source: Anna Glen, Hillsong Testimonies, Hillsong Church Watch, https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/hillsong-testimonies/#comment-8102, Published 03/09/2014, 6:15pm. (Accessed 12/11/2014.)
She continues.
“[…] I was a member of The Hills Christian Life Centre almost from it’s begining sweet child, unfortunately I have have come across many of The Hillsong aftermath the pain, hurt, Spirit destroying, deceptions and abuse of God loving and God fearing people!
Megan you ask what is wrong with watered down scripture? That should ring alarm bells in your soul child, watering down of God’s Word is undermining his authority, making God a liar! it is like rewriting scripture to suit oneself, infact you could throw The Bible out and do what you want because there is no meaning or Authority it’s just a bunch of word’s. For me Hillsong’s is heretical, it also reminds me of that luke warm Church in Revelation that get’s spewed out, think about it before it to late sister![…]”
Source: Anna Glen, Hillsong Testimonies, Hillsong Church Watch, https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/hillsong-testimonies/#comment-11957, Published 02/11/2014, 11:06pm. (Accessed 12/11/2014.)
BeholdASon writes,
Hillsong was the first Christian assembly I was part of. I was 15 when I started going there and I left at the age of 18.
The reason why I left was because I sat through more than THIRTY sermons where the Gospel of Jesus was not presented according to the Scriptures.
Jesus dying on the cross on behalf of us sinners = not mentioned once.
Our sins separating us from God = not mentioned once.
Our need to change our mind (repent) from unbelief to believing on the Son Jesus Christ for forgiveness of sins = not mentioned once.
The only reason I grew enough spiritually in order to leave that wretched place…
I read my teenage NIV study bible.
[…] John 20:31 says:
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
The entire book of John was written with the hope that sinners would change their mind about Jesus Christ and exercise faith in Him as their Savior from sin.
Jesus IS the Lord.
This is not the message of Hillsong.
I challenge you to seriously look out for such a Gospel message in your Sunday religious meetings there.
You don’t find it.
You need to find an assembly where they preach the Gospel.
Unfortunately, Hillsong is full of wolves dressed like sheep.
Source: BeholdASon, Two Tanya’s, two stories, one dilemma: what is Hillsong? (Part 1), Hillsong Church Watch, https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/2015/02/03/two-tanyas-two-stories-one-dilemma-what-is-hillsong-part-1/#comment-16331, 10/02/2015, 8:46 am, (Accessed 11/02/2015.)
They continue,
For many years I’ve tried to find genuine fellowship with Christians who believe the simplicity of the Gospel.
The crunch at Hillsong came when I realised that many of my friends there were not believers in Jesus at all. The were there for the ‘party’ and good time.
As a new believer, the enormity of my salvation from sin was so huge that I could not fathom how people could be at Hillsong happily without being convicted about their sinfulness and need to salvation.
Ask any professing Christian how a person comes to salvation and you will normally hear:
“invite Jesus into your heart”
“turn from your sins”
“commit to following the Lord”.
None are the requirements for salvation.
Jesus said “Believe on me”.
Faith is all that is required.
But one does not need faith in a Savior unless one knows they are a big SINNER.
Hillsong doesn’t call sinful men out on their sin, because that is offensive and makes people feel bad.”
BeholdASon, Two Tanya’s, two stories, one dilemma: what is Hillsong? (Part 1), Hillsong Church Watch, https://hillsongchurchwatch.com/2015/02/03/two-tanyas-two-stories-one-dilemma-what-is-hillsong-part-1/#comment-16352, 10/02/2015, 10:47 am, (Accessed 11/02/2015.)
HILLSONG LONDON
‘Neveling67‘ says of their experiences:
I attended one of their churches & it’s a 100% apostate church. They brought in a psychologist to preach a sermon (I kid you not). It was a pick up joint for the youth and the cherry on the cake was the pastor drunk on New Years Eve. Kids making out on a sofa. This was in the church folks. We walked out and never went back. I was threatened with litigation from lukewarm Christians who love Hillsong when I called them out and said this is wrong. Here is the validation of that for me- Thank you God. You can sit in a church and still go to hell. Don’t be fooled by nice songs, be aware of the intention of the church and read your bible so you know the Word yourself. We are living in the latter most days the apostate church is a concrete sign of that.
Source: Neveling67, Hillsong Church Watch – “The Muslim and you, we actually serve the same God”, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frnSIOhlobQ&google_comment_id=z13zw3mxxweicbggo04cdx5x2kvic3ygv1o, (Accessed 26/05/2014.)
He continues,
Hi […], I completely agree. I also went to that Christmas “service”, I felt some content was very wrong too and the singers were secular people employed by the church. They didn’t do an altar call or take an offering. They were more interested in a show than the gospel. I wish I had walked out but we are so desperate for a church here. I’ve been to so many apostate churches that we do church at home now every day.
Source: Neveling67, Hillsong Church Watch – “The Muslim and you, we actually serve the same God”, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frnSIOhlobQ&google_comment_id=z13zw3mxxweicbggo04cdx5x2kvic3ygv1o, (Accessed 26/05/2014.)
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‘Anthony‘ says of their experiences:
[…] I used to attended Hillsong “Church” London and I’m tellin you its not a church, its where the ungodly come together to pretend they’re Christians , it’s a feel good church. All that the things you mentioned is absolutely true, they do run a little nightclub service which is every Wednesday here in the city, where you can have yourself some cocktails or some beers up to you. Well my question about that “church” was on 2012 during one of they Christmas Carole service which was in Wembley Arena, there were scenes which was very disturbing, so disturbing me and my friends left and never returned and promise ourselves to never go to another charismatic church again, we now attend a small community church where the true Gospel is being preached,
Source: Anthony the Boxer, Hillsong Church Watch – “The Muslim and you, we actually serve the same God”, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frnSIOhlobQ&google_comment_id=z13zw3mxxweicbggo04cdx5x2kvic3ygv1o, (Accessed 26/05/2014.)
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I’ve been attending Hillsong London since 2010 and have never experienced any of what Anthony and Neveling67 posted; but then I only go to Sunday services, prayer meetings and the night sessions at conferences.
I would like to point out that Jesus was often found in the company of ‘sinners’ and much of what he said was taken to be heretic or blasphemous at the time; however I’m not here to defend the leaders of the church but rather to ask why these 2 posters feel comfortable in pointing fingers at the church when, by their own confession, they ‘walked out’ when they saw something wrong. Did Neveling67 try to stop/correct the kids making out? did either of them address their concerns to someone who might have been in a position to do something? Do you mean that the ‘church leaders’ willing promote immorality? And not one of the thousands of people attending the church is aware of this? Yet you feel justified to walk out and leave them all to their ‘evil’ ways? Didn’t Paul chastise Peter in Galatians 2:9-13?
We are the church, the body of Christ and we are the ones who are called to be the light and the salt of the earth but we pass the responsibility to a few individuals and feel content to point fingers when they do not act in the way we deem right. Faith without works is dead so when you walk out rather than help out when something is wrong, does this make you any better?
My prayer is that when the Lord returns, note of us will be found wanting. Amen
‘The Body of Christ and the organized church are not one and the same’.
This was a great, very scriptural quotation I got from a book about spiritual abuse. It is a basic truth that I carry with me when I enter any professing Christian organization and certainly explains a lot of issues brought up on these forums.
Came to know the Lord via Hills Christian Life Center, Baulkham Hills (now Hillsong Church, Norwest? Castle Hill) 1994. Almost lost my faith via Hills Christian Center because of the the bullying and Harassment which my faith was constantly under attack because my husband chose not to hear the word of God at the time and I would not or could not speak in tongues and I would question the validity of tongues with no one to interperate but a couple hundred people babbling at once and that was a no no ” You have no Faith or are Lacking in Faith”.
No Thanks to Hills, and all thanks, Praise and Glory to our Lord Jesus Christ He Kept me, carried me, Loved me and showed me many things during this depressive time and still is.
I am still having issues with “Churches” and have not been to one for many years and it’s Human lonely.
In regards to my husband I am blessed to say he ask Jesus into his life this year! We can sow the seed but the Holy Spirit makes it grow! Some come quick to the Lord others the Lord has to work on First!
Hello Anna – it’s nice to hear your testimony. many people come to the Lord in a church situation, just like you did but as they grow in their knowledge of him, they finally realise one day, that they can no longer attend.
Their Bible study leads them to become aware of some things that are unbiblical and the Holy Spirit leads them out of whatever the gross error is, and then on to ‘greener pastures’. It’s great that your husband is now saved as well, and that you can both love God together.
I do hope and pray that you will find a new fellowship/church where you can be a part of it and grow along with the saints in the knowledge of God, and where you can both worship Jesus in spirit and in truth.
You are right about the ‘Human lonely’ factor – it can be a time of trials and testing, but isolation should not be forever. I don’t attend regular “church’ where I live, but i do have regular contact though with Christian people, both online, and in person.
Be encouraged to stand for truth, and keep testifying to people around you, of the grace of God in your lives regarding salvation through Jesus,and the coming Kingdom of God.
““But the salvation of the righteous is from the LORD; He is their strength in time of trouble.” (Psalm 37:39)
This website is a disgrace!! Where is your church?? Is it perfect?? Are you the perfect preacher?? Are you sticking your neck out on the line every weekend for the good of the gospel and for the unsaved?? Christianity is about looking after each other and supporting each other for the cause of the gospel. How self righteous are you to sit there on your website and critisize?
“Are you sticking your neck out on the line every weekend for the good of the gospel and for the unsaved??”
We stick our neck out online every day. 😉
“Christianity is about looking after each other and supporting each other for the cause of the gospel.”
True. That’s why we’re leading Christians out of the global Hillsong cult. Hillsong attacks the gospel, we upohold it and lead people to the truth of the gospel which reveals Christ and His Word.
“How self righteous are you to sit there on your website and critisize?”
Criticism is self-righteousness. Have you ever heard that taught in the bible?
Do you go to Hillsong? That is something a biblical illiterate person from Hillsong would say.
Bible book, chapter and verse where we are commanded not to speak the whole truth to fellow Christians if some might 1. find it personally offensive 2. injure their feelings 3. contradict what is currently happening in their own church. Thanks in advance.
Do you realise you are making Tolerance/ non-judgementalism a greater virtue than Truth? That is a worldly way of thinking NOT a Christian one. Here’s an Oxford University speaker talking about the issue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g87oWVUxXY
“Are you the perfect preacher??”
Why, d? Are you going to tell us, perhaps, that Brian Houston is the perfect preacher?
Sorry to burst your bubble, d, but Brian doesn’t know the truth, and so doesn’t even qualify as a preacher. Just as one would have pity on someone born into a JW or mormon family, so Brian is an object of pity – he has been brought up on falsehood for his entire life, and never stood a chance. There’s nothing sadder than an ageing heretic.
I listen to Brian Houston’s sermons online, and as a avid Bible studier I have to respectfully disagree with some of the points on your website. Churches were made to have a community of believers, and as David says, “Behold, how good and pleasant it is when brothers dwell in unity!” (Psalm 133:1). We all need community and a connection to other believers. I wouldn’t have been introduced to the Good News without someone to introduce it to me. The whole point of Hillsong church is to introduce Jesus to people in a fresh and radical way, which is critical in the culture we live in today. Growing up, many people around me hated church because it was ‘boring’, and I think the incredible thing about Hillsong is that it introduces Jesus in such a modern and interesting way. You claim that Hillsong is watered down, which I don’t necessarily agree with, but if you are right what is so wrong with that? If a ‘watered down’ global church can change lives and save lives for Jesus, it seems like they are obviously doing something right. I dislike watered down Christianity as much as the next guy, but I don’t necessarily see a problem with it if it can change so many lives. I think when non-Christians experience Hillsong, they immediately desire to know God in a new and intimate way. Naturally, they turn to the Bible, in which they learn about God. No disrespect, but if you claim to be a website based off Biblical Christianity, then why shame a church that would encourages others to read their Bibles by first introducing God through a fresh way? In Brian’s sermon “No Other Name” Part 1, he constantly quotes the Bible throughout his sermon to back up his points. I personally think that if he was preaching something unBiblical, someone in the crowd would have seen it in their Bibles. Someone out of the thousands of followers of Hillsong church around the globe would have noticed if Brian was not preaching something Biblical. And because Hillsong is such a huge empire, the press would have jumped at the chance to tear Hillsong down, exposing it to the world as unBiblical. Matthew 18:20 says, “For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.” At each Hillsong church around the globe in the thousands of people attending, I am absolutely positive that at least 2 people there are gathered for God’s name. That means that in that Hillsong church, God is there. God is with them. Who are you or I to stop that from happening? Tearing down Hillsong church by saying they are unBiblical and wrong can stop people from experiencing God at those churches. Even if they are unBiblical, God is at that church. God is doing something great in that moment. God can change lives, even through the ‘unBiblical’. I do respect your free will to have an opinion, but I had to defend Hillsong and voice mine. I don’t know where I’d be in my walk with God without their music and sermons. Hillsong pushes me daily to experience God in a new and fresh way, and I am forever grateful. Thank you for hearing me out, God bless!
Sadly this comment demonstrates the real fruit born of the Hillsong “gospel”. I suppose we could pick apart almost every point Megan makes, but is she interested in the Truth or has she truly been blindsided by a false gospel? Is she one of those Jesus tells us about in 2 Timothy 4:3-4, someone who loves to have their ears tickled?
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”
Megan – I’m going to address just one point simply because it’s so often used out of context. You bring up Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”
Matthew 18:20 does have a context and its pericope (single unit of thought) starts in verse 15:
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother.”
Then we move on to verse 16:
“But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.”
This is about bringing a brother to repentance, and these verses are about church discipline and Christ’s approval of a process, not to do with some special presence of Christ in prayer gatherings.
Let’s put the verses together:
“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”
Megan, do you really think that Christ is only with us “when two or three are gathered”? The truth is, He is in our midst now because, being omnipresent, he is always in the immediate presence of everything in all creation.
@Megan:
” I personally think that if he was preaching something unBiblical, someone in the crowd would have seen it in their Bibles. Someone out of the thousands of followers of Hillsong church around the globe would have noticed if Brian was not preaching something Biblical.”
Well that’s true Megan – and thousands have ‘noticed’ just how unbiblical Brian’s “teaching” really is – and they ‘have’ left – it’s just that you’ve never met them (probably before your time or in another far removed place) but here you are, lambasting us for showing them the error if his way?
Please tell me how that one works Megan…?
Dear Sister Megan,
In the Love God commands us you have been blinded by the Hillsong hype, I have left my testimony further up this page. I was a member of The Hills Christian Life Centre almost from it’s begining sweet child, unfortunately I have have come across many of The Hillsong aftermath the pain, hurt, Spirit destroying, deceptions and abuse of God loving and God fearing people!
Megan you ask what is wrong with watered down scripture? That should ring alarm bells in your soul child, watering down of God’s Word is undermining his authority, making God a liar! it is like rewriting scripture to suit oneself, infact you could throw The Bible out and do what you want because there is no meaning or Authority it’s just a bunch of word’s. For me Hillsong’s is heretical, it also reminds me of that luke warm Church in Revelation that get’s spewed out, think about it before it to late sister!
I will pray for you that The Spirit of our Lord Jesus Chist opens your eyes, ears, heart and soul to see the truth, Amen!
” I dislike watered down Christianity as much as the next guy, but I don’t necessarily see a problem with it if it can change so many lives”
How many souls are really converted through a watered-down “gospel”?
True, God can use any message that points to Jesus, even if in a faulty gospel – yes, and even in a JW meeting or in a RC church. However, if a watered-down Christianity is preached it certainly won’t be the 2 Timothy 3:16 kind…Doesn’t God also command “get out of her, My people” if things get too bad? True Christian growth is unlikely in a church that teaches half-truths and outright heresy.
There is a scripture thus saith the Lord I am a spirit and the true worshippers shall worship me (Jesus) in Spirit and in Truth and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is Liberty. Many years ago I was a member of that Church. Brian’s father was the Head Pastor and he a pedophile he was although I did not know at the time. I was a fellowship & prayer leader for a while. Younger people came to that church to look for a husband or a wife. My group of christian friends use to laugh about it. I’m 65 years of age now, Older that Pastor Brian and His wife. Seen much in that Church. The Elders of the Church did not want to know of any indiscretions that were happening in the Church. Even if you were married there was no stopping some of those so called Christians. I had to keep saying Look at my Wedding finger chaps “Married”. I eventually left after discussions with Pastor Mark Horan to attend a small Word of Faith Church in Rockdale and believe Pastor Brian Houston even though Hills is AOG he has got himself involved in Word of Faith in America. Dare I say never mind the Word of God in it’s entirety just give me the prosperity side of the Gospel so I can make money. I am concerned that the younger christians have not developed the gift of discernment. Here’s a hint he dwells within the inner most parts of your being.
Right just a couple of problems with this website, hillsong is not a church (word of truth not rightly divided nor sacraments administered according to the Scriptures) and Brian Houston is no pastor, that office is understood as shepherd, those who feed the sheep, so houston is no shepherd, more likely a shearer, interested in fleecing. Third and biggest problem, you have links to fighting for the faith and table talk radio, but not issuesetc.org or worldview everlasting, tut tut. God Bless
RevJK – Don’t have any problem with Issues Etc or Worldview Everlasting, often get cross references from Chris Rosebrough. Might be able to add links on the side. Even have a copy of Jonathon Fisk’s “7 Christian Rules That Every Christian Ought to Break As Often As Possible” 🙂
Cheers, Team ChurchWatch
I’ll just leave one thing here. Hillsong is preaching a watered down gospel and Jesus never pulled any punches he said it like it was and many disciples left him. No Hillsong want to draw more and more people to fill the church and who probably are in the grasp of Satan and don’t even know it! Wow unto you Hillsong for bringing forward another gospel! Trying to relevant to draw the world into the church. You should be preaching the gospel no matter how offended people get! The truth is the truth your responsibility is to preach it and let God do the rest!
Matthew 11:6 (HCSB)
6 And if anyone is not offended because of Me, he is blessed.”
John 6:43-44 (HCSB)
43 Jesus answered them, “Stop complaining among yourselves. 44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws[a] him, and I will raise him up on the last day.
Using your spare time to analyse every word Brian Houston says must be so boring…
Go do something productive like praying for someone randomly on the street, buy a homeless guy lunch, tell a prostitue that Jesus loves them and can heal their pain, engage in a conversation with someone you always choose not to. If your sole purpose in life is to tear down a church you don’t believe in, there’s so MUCH wasted energy You could put Into something constructive.
God is bigger than me, God is bigger than you, and Hes certainly bigger than Hillsong church. Christ isn’t threatened, why are you?
Why do pro-Hillsong contributors always *assume* it’s an either/or situation? Do you really think Christians who warn fellow Christians about a false teacher automatically do no charity work of any variety?! I do just what you “suggest” ONLINE, conversing with atheists, struggling Christians etc.in a totally different style forum.
It’s time for *you* to think clearly, query what you’re being told* is really true and in accordance with scripture IN CONTEXT. Be a Berean, not a brainwashed sheep.
A quick refreshment. We believe in a God manifested in three persons… Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. This last one descended upon the Apostles on Pentecost, giving them the ability to speak in tongues, do miracles, and everything else mentioned throughout the book of Acts.
Hello. My name is Robin and I’m a college student from the U.S. I was born and raised,and still attend a baptist church in my city. It’s a strong, bible-based congregation that gives way for the Spirit to pour Himself on people whenever He wants to. Since I was 14 I’ve been attending youth group and going to retreats. Since age 15 the Lord has constantly spoken to me, through altar-callings or different ministers. I’ve felt His presence and heard His beautiful voice. I’ve even written down what He has promised me (I guess all of us Christians have gone through these experiences). On September of 2014, I went to a Baptist National youth encounter (for members and non members of the baptist assembly of my state). During all of the worship services the presence of God was amazing. But on two of the services, possessed teenagers were revealed. You would see intercessors casting out the demons, and kids being set free. The whole scene was marvelous … worship band lifting music up, hundreds of teens praising, and kids being literally set free from the powers of darkness. Specifically, during the Saturday night worship service, as the band played “Oceans” by Hillsong United and the 400 present teens sung it, a possessed girl was being delivered in that very moment, through the intercession of others in the name of Jesus Christ. I guess it takes a profound song with deep spiritual lyrical content to find it’s way into a girl’s heart, to literally free her from her chains.
Brothers and sisters, I’m not mad. I’m just really, really sad. I’m not part of Hillsong Church, have never been to one, nor is my assembly connected to them. But their music and preaching have kept connected to God and walking towards His love in the midst of trials. Cause even though I’ve had personal encounters with the Lord in the baptist assembly, I’ve also seen tons of teens stray away, because my church doesn’t use the tools to connect with their 21st century way of thinking. And Hillsong Church does do it. They keep youth interested in God, using their creative tools.
-They have redefined the Christian church … to it’s original meaning; an assembly of people who gather anywhere at any time under His presence to grow spiritually, without any religious doctrines that God doesn’t even ask for;
-They attack orthodoxy… and it isn’t completely wrong, cause orthodoxy is religious thought, when Jesus himself attacked the religious leaders of His time. Christianity isn’t a religion. It’s a battlefield, under His name, to repeat the events taken place during Pentecost and the Apostolic Age (33-100 AD)’
-They have redefined the pastoral office … and it’s not a problem, cause pastors shouldn’t even care too much about their offices. They should care more about the dying, hungry children in Africa;
-They preach a false gospel … NOT. They speak what Jesus spoke: love, grace, and doom for non-believers. Check out this link – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ2BMZ1JQ9c (specficially at 31:01);
-They reject the authority of scripture … NOT. They use scripture to teach.
-They elevate Brian Houston above the Word of God to an infallible Messiah-like prophet/teacher/leader/visionary who cannot be questioned … NOT. He’s only the senior pastor. Hillsong Church Australia has other lead pastors and leaders who take part;
-They redefined the role of Christian worship in church … OF COURSE! But at least they’re making Christian-electronic and rock music that keeps young people interested in God, instead of letting them attend music festivals with alcohol and fornication promotion;
-They use music as an agent to infiltrate churches by influencing youth and other less discerning people… NOT. Wait what? Young people are less discerning ? What does this mean? The Word says in 1 Timothy 4:12 9 (NIV)
Don’t let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity;
-They take over churches and re-brand them into their movement … why not? When Hillsong re-brands it’s about giving other churches an idea of how to attract people. Like hanging “WELCOME HOME” banners.
Let’s take a look at our churches. Where are the teens? Where are the kids? Inside, learning about God? Or outside, doing drugs & alcohol?
Hillsong Church is a Pentecostal church affiliated with Australian Christian Churches (the Australian branch of the Assemblies of God). They have a council. They’re not alone on this. They’ve impacted millions, all under council surveillance.
This page stands on the “testimonies” of roughly… 15 people?
Meanwhile, I’m just sad. Cause you want dead a church that makes awesome music for me to play while I pray and fast alone in my bedroom.
About the refreshment… it’s all about the Holy Spirit. If you’ve ever LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell you through the Holy Spirit “Go online and create a page that shames the Hillsong Church”, I can’t go against this blog. But otherwise, this is plain unnecessary.
No hard feelings, brothers and sisters! Not you, just the web-page! Take care and God bless.
“Hello. My name is Robin and I’m a college student from the U.S.”
Hello. My name is serge and I am part of an evidently rare breed who still believes in holding to Scripture.
“Specifically, during the Saturday night worship service, as the band played “Oceans” by Hillsong United and the 400 present teens sung it, a possessed girl was being delivered in that very moment, through the intercession of others in the name of Jesus Christ. I guess it takes a profound song with deep spiritual lyrical content to find it’s way into a girl’s heart, to literally free her from her chains.”
Fascinating how this ‘profound song’ which is so unscriptural actually aided in delivering persons from demons & chains.
“I’ve also seen tons of teens stray away, because my church doesn’t use the tools to connect with their 21st century way of thinking. And Hillsong Church does do it. They keep youth interested in God, using their creative tools.”
Oh boy, yes they do. Like putting Adam & Steve on the choir in Hillsong NYC to broadcast how ‘inclusive’ Hillsong is. Yep, it shore is time to get rid of that 20th century hillbilly mentality of purity/holiness and the other virtues extolled in God’s Word, so we can glide right into the hipper 21st century way of thinking and accept a Gay agenda, a Catholic agenda, a Prosperity agenda, and all other politically correct 21st century agendas.
Hello, Serge. God bless you, brother in Christ 🙂
Please read this in a calm voice, cause my intention isn’t for it to seem like I’m screaming , LOL.
-You are part of the church, not a rare breed. We all believe in Scripture. Every denomination believes in Scripture. Just because some have certain points of view different from others, it doesn’t mean God prefers the “breed” that’s analyzing the Scriptures “correctly”.
-“Oceans” is not non-scriptural. Believe me, I know when I hear a song that’s not christian. Yes … I already read Jorge’s blog and it doesn’t explain too much to me. Just that the song should be more about God than the person’s struggle.But that’s the point. For FAR TOO LONG, the songs sung in church were about God’s glory and all the worship He deserves. But some people started asking themselves “Why do we even worship God?”. That’s why we need songs that demonstrate the spiritual battle the worshiper is going through. Like the Psalms of David. In the end, God receives it the same way.
-Carl Lentz (great guy) is Hillsong NYC’s pastor and only states that he doesn’t speak against homosexuals. Nothing about putting them to sing in the choir. And if so, no problem. At least they’re worshiping God, not going to bars to hit on each other. And the 21st century church agenda is not deprived of purity/holiness. It’s only realizing that we don’t need perfection inside the congregations, cause God doesn’t ask for perfection. At least they’re inside church, where they can be transformed by a caring ambient,His word, and the Holy Spirit.
If you were really transformed by Jesus Christ, you would be dancing and jumping cause He set you free of sin, like porn addiction or alcoholism (I don’t know LOL). A soul filled with real passion and love wouldn’t waste time on a church-shaming blog like this.
Otherwise, just plain religious thought.
Once again, If you’ve ever LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell you through the Holy Spirit “Go online and create a page that shames the Hillsong Church”, answer me with a yes or a no.
No hard feelings!
Not you, just the web-page! Take care.
Do you go to Hillsong Joel?
@ Joel – When did unbiblical Hillsong lyrics replace the holy scriptures?
Read this article on “Oceans” and then see if you can give us clear scriptures, from the lyrics alone, to support her deliverance.
https://faithfulstewardship.wordpress.com/2014/08/19/discernment-in-music-oceans-where-feet-may-fail
How do you know that the return of an unclean spirit wasn’t the end result?
Matthew 12:44-45 “Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came’; and when it comes, it finds it unoccupied, swept, and put in order. “Then it goes and takes along with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first. That is the way it will also be with this evil generation.”
-“Oceans” is not non-scriptural. Believe me, I know when I hear a song that’s not christian. Yes … I already read Jorge’s blog and it doesn’t explain too much to me. Just that the song should be more about God than the person’s struggle.But that’s the point. For FAR TOO LONG, the songs sung in church were about God’s glory and all the worship He deserves. But some people started asking themselves “Why do we even worship God?”. That’s why we need songs that demonstrate the spiritual battle the worshiper is going through. Like the Psalms of David. In the end, God receives it the same way.
Once again, If you’ve ever LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell you through the Holy Spirit “Go online and create a page that shames the Hillsong Church”, answer me with a yes or a no.
Church discernment these days seems more like religious judgment. Back in the apostolic age, church members had actual discernment of spirits and did one heck of a job.
No hard feelings! 🙂
“Once again, If you’ve ever LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell you through the Holy Spirit “Go online and create a page that shames the Hillsong Church”, answer me with a yes or a no.”
HillsongDefender, If you are waiting for an audible voice to retell you, what the Bible already says in multiple places in multiple ways, then you will be waiting a long time. And to your complete shame.
Eh 5:11 — “Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.”
What don’t you ‘get’ about that?
Where does the Bible say you must “wait for an audible voice” before you obey it?
The Bible does not instruct you to wait for an audible voice before being obedient:
James 1:22 — “But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves”
James 4:17 — “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”
@HillsongDefender
‘But some people started asking themselves “Why do we even worship God?”’
Yes, that’s quite true. Brian and Bobbie Houston asked that question, and they decided that it would be far better to worship money, success, and sex.
Do you think it was for no reason that Brian wrote the book “You Need More Money” and that Bobbie wrote “Kingdom Women Love Sex”?
And tell us this, HD: do you believe that Brian and Bobbie wrote those books because they LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell them to do it? And, if your answer is “no”, could you please tell us exactly what you think their motivation was?
“For FAR TOO LONG, the songs sung in church were about God’s glory and all the worship He deserves. But some people started asking themselves “Why do we even worship God?”
Sounds like a normal question to ask in church. Doesn’t everyone ask that every sunday? Who wants to worship God anymore?
So let’s change God-centered into man-centered to make things more relevant.
Refer to Genesis 3 for a good example of how well this plan works out.
“I guess it takes a profound song with deep spiritual lyrical content to find it’s way into a girl’s heart, to literally free her from her chains.”
I guess Jesus was wrong when he said “The *truth* will set you free” (emphasis mine). You will have the opportunity to set Him straight when you appear before Him at the Judgement.
“[…] I’m a college student from the U.S.”
Really? I’d never have guessed that.
You know what I mean when I say “I guess it takes a profound song with deep spiritual lyrical content to find it’s way into a girl’s heart, to literally free her from her chains.” My intention isn’t to go over the power of Jesus Christ. I would never reward a song over His power. I’m expressing this thought; that the song was so profound to the point that it brought the girl to the knowledge of Jesus. There she had an encounter with the Holy Spirit, thus the deliverance.
You have the right to tell me I’m going to be judged for my sin by Jesus on the day of judgment? I don’t know who you are, but I do know that you’re supposed to be a christian. And you’re supposed to be filled with His Holy Spirit…which comes in consequence of a pouring of His LOVE through salvation. Your words must be kind.
I got a long list of intimate stuff the Lord has personally told me, through the Holy Spirit, by the intercession of a variety of ministers. His voice is so beautiful and compassionate that I can’t tame the tears in my eyes. Oh the wonder of the promises and prophecies He’s declared over my life. I just can’t wait.
But you, brother or sister, have just demonstrated the opposite.
Once again, If you’ve ever LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell you through the Holy Spirit “Go online and create a page that shames the Hillsong Church”, answer me with a yes or a no.
No hard feelings 🙂 All of you must be awesome people in real life. I know topics like these create debate. Even more online. But seriously, God bless.
“Once again, If you’ve ever LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell you through the Holy Spirit “Go online and create a page that shames the Hillsong Church”, answer me with a yes or a no.”
There is *no* webpage on earth in existance that ‘shames’ Brian Houston or Hillsong Church.
Brian has managed to bring all that shame on them without the assistance of anyone else.
@HillsongDefender
“[…] the song was so profound to the point that it brought the girl to the knowledge of Jesus […]”
Obviously you haven’t read the Bible.
It is written “No one can come to [Jesus] unless the Father […] draws him”.
Look that verse up. See if you can find an instance where Jesus said anything about “profound songs” drawing people to him, and then come back here and give us the chapter and verse.
“I don’t know who you are […]”
Your problem is that you don’t know who God is.
“Once again, If you’ve ever LITERALLY heard the voice of God tell you through the Holy Spirit “Go online and create a page that shames the Hillsong Church”, answer me with a yes or a no.”
We will say we were led by a number of scriptures including the one below to publicly speak against Hillsong. Both Brian and Frank are guilty of different crimes and sins and Hillsong is proud. Just like Frank Houston and Brian Houston, Hillsong members lack both the understanding or spine of Christian integrity to deal with these issues as Christians. This is why we exist.
Hillsong instead keep defending the wicked and inexcusable and expel the Christian and the moral from among them.
“It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is ________________ .
And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.
Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler [And both Frank Houston and Brian Houston are guilty of some of these inexcusable sins]. Do not even eat with such people.
What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? [Hillsong members are discouraged to do so because they have “A relationship with Jesus”.] God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Corinthians 5:2-13
But who needs to obey what God says in His Word when Hillsong have a personal relationship with Jesus? It’s funny how Hillsong claims to have a relationship with Jesus but seem to walk in the definition of “lawless ones” that Jesus explains on the last day to those who insist they know him.
““Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” Matthew 7:21-22
We are giving Hillsong members the pure unadulterated Word of God and the Gospel on ChurchWatch – and yet your leaders continually encourage and incite Hillsong people to hate Christians who actually care for your souls (which Jesus claims if you hate your brother you have murdered them in your heart). We do not hate – we call Hillsong leadership and it’s members to bear fruit in keeping with repentance and to not tolerate wickedness in the church as commanded by scripture.
It is your job as a Christian to worship and obey God first by submitting to His Word. Not the word of Brian Houston. Unfortunately, you have elevated Brian, his leadership and his movement above God’s Word and by their authority and teachings see us and condemn us as haters. That is idolatry.
And you need to repent of this sin, go to God’s Word and examine for yourselves who is lying: God or Hillsong leadership.
Well, I guess you guys are truly basing this webpage upon scripture. Although we have different opinions on what church should be, we all have one Lord and that’s what’s important.
Keep being yourselves. For you have been faithful, holy, obedient, and wise, you will see God. Be blessed.
Proverbs 3:3 ESV
Let not steadfast love and faithfulness forsake you; bind them around your neck; write them on the tablet of your heart.
This Hillsong church watch website is very good & so very true.So many of us have been through so much rot in the church.Yes,many (not all),have become like a social.club shallow club.Not for me,thanks.
Yeah you might have been through so much rot in the church but a ton of people have also been saved at hillsong.
Regardless of the problems you cant ignore this point….although this blog is desperately trying to.
“but a ton of people have also been saved at hillsong.”
How many is “a ton?” Anyone can make all kinds of claims, any proof of this?
How many people have been hurt at Hillsong?
How many people have been negatively affected by Hillsong’s false teachings?
How many nearby churches have been negatively impacted by Hillsong?
How many more people would have been saved if a bunch of legitimate churches had been getting Hillsong’s $80M / yr instead of Hillsong?
How many more people would have been saved if a bunch of legitimate churches had been getting Hillsong’s $80M / yr instead of Hillsong?
How many did God call?
John 6:38-40 “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of all those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”…
“but a ton of people have also been saved at hillsong.”
Your comment reminds one of Achan’s disobedience in Joshua 7. Regardless of how attractive some things may look, they truly are “off limits.”
When the Lord says to “do” or to “not do” something, there is always a good reason for it.
Jesus warned us to avoid false teachers/prophets. That would include Brian Houston.
Some would counter, like you have, “but look at all the good this group or that group has done!”
The disobedient in heart, can always find a way / an end to justify their means.
However, when the Lord says “don’t”, that really means “don’t.” As in the case of putting a shady figure like Brian Houston over multitudes of Christians for their spiritual guidance / covering.
God really pushed this point on Moses in Deuteronomy 3:26. Read that verse. It may be that many Christians on Judgement Day will have similar regrets to those Moses had that day in Deuteronomy, when they see what more they might have gotten eternally, had they not taken certain bowls of stew in this lifetime like Esau did.
What seems justifiably okay to you, is a cut-and-dry No-no per Jesus own direct commands.
No legitimate church can function with a false teacher in charge. Especially one who pushes still other false teachers on the people he’s supposed to be a shepherd over.
There are hundreds of examples where anglican or catholic priests are a lot more ‘shady’ than Brian.
Does that mean that the anglican church should shut down?
Why is there no anglicanchurchwatch blog?????
Ummm, Maybe because the Arch Bishop of Canterbury does not teach Heresy?
Ummmm i thought you said if the founder/head of a church was rotten it was rotten all the way down?????
So this only applies to hillsong and not the anglican church?
Double standards.
“So this only applies to hillsong and not the anglican church?
Double standards.”
Nutter you need to grow up.
Nutter, like Sammy, is just another immature HS clone – they’re in full swing breeding season this year, aren’t they…?
Christ is the head of the Church, and the Holy Spirit acts as an ‘administrator’ – deciding who gets what gifts and who has a ministry calling.
B & B have neither, so don’t waste your time and energy defending them, you won’t sway the brethren here…
If that is the case then comments about FH being a rotten head are not really relevant are they?
As there are thousands examples across the world where the head pastor/leader/head dude were not exactly shining examples eh?
It’s weak to continue an argument for the sake or arguing if you keep calling the kettle black. It undermines your own purpose. Best to stick to the facts so your argument is stong yeah?
The only thing breeding around here is self righteous behaviour.
There are hundreds of examples where anglican or catholic priests are a lot more ‘shady’ than Brian.
Does that mean that the anglican church should shut down?
Why is there no anglicanchurchwatch blog?????
There is no anglicanchurchwatch blog because there is no singular Anglican Church. There are some 80+ bodies that consider themselves to be Anglican.
As to Canterbury, they are slowly shutting down because they have become an apostate church. The heresy coming out of Canterbury would rival HS, believe me. But Canterbury is not the defining institution of Anglicanism anymore; they lost that when they started to condone some of the very things that HS also condones, like homosexuality and women’s ordination. Should Canterbury be shut down? They are slowly doing that themselves and have been for decades.
But hey, that is beside the point. Its much easier to point to other churches and their problems than to face the fact that your favorite church is apostate and world centered.
“dachel35”, Why dont YOU put your $$$ where your mouth is & create that anglicanchurchwatch blog yourself since you feel so strongly about it?????
Or are you just a do-nothing bigmouth?????
For a start, the Catholic Church is still considered globally as a cult. As for the Anglican Church – many people around the world have issues with them too. Our sites exist to highlight movements that claim to be of a higher standard than these places but show all the dangers of a destructive cult.
The heresy coming out of Canterbury is obvious – they don’t care what people think. Hillsong try not to be as obvious because they are intent in winning the Miss Universe popularity contest.
TwoCents. We know its you again. “Thanks” for making the same dumb comment over & over for like the 5th time.
Thanks for putting this blog up. I have been saved for five years now but I am still growing out of many of the false teachings that I was exposed very early on in my salvation. Sadly it was those who loved me who exposed me to dozens of false teachers and wolves in sheeps clothing… I have forgiven them. They are ensnared themselves by false teachings.
As for those who are railing at this blog and it’s founders, please consider that the founders of this blog are merely carrying out the charge that God gave us:
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather EXPOSE them.
Ephesians 5:11
Good comment. I had a similar experience.
Wow. No wonder Christianity is dying out in this world – we’re all too busy fighting amongst ourselves to pay attention to the Great Commission.
It’s very easy to sit behind a computer screen and criticise, but I wonder – have you ever actually been to Hillsong? Or are you basing your ideas on clips from YouTube and stories from people disillusioned with the church/faith/God? I’d love to know if you’ve actually met any of the people you cast down. I’m not from Hillsong, but I have had the pleasure of meeting Brian Houston and some the other senior pastors and leaders at Hillsong. I can’t comment on the authenticity of their faith – who am I to do so? But I can say that their hearts cry out to serve the Great Commission and go and make disciples. Their contribution to that has changed the face of Christianity in Australia far more than my own ever could.
I am reminded of the teaching of Jesus in Matthew 7:1-6. God granted me special revelation of this passage early in my faith journey, and as the years go on I find that I need reminding of it from time to time. I think that it is so important to remember that no-one is perfect. That’s the whole point of Jesus – to overcome our sin and bring us into perfect relationship with God, if we ask. I’m quite sure Brian and others at Hillsong have made mistakes – in fact, Brian freely admits and discusses his mistakes (particularly in relation to dealing with revelations of his father’s crimes). To dedicate an entire blog to watching and waiting for someone in one church to make a mistake seems counterintuitive to the teaching of Jesus in the gospels – to love one another, build each other up, steer one another on the right path, and above all – seek to glorify God in living a life that honours Him.
I am sure the above will be pulled apart and mocked by the writers of the site and its supporters. I pray though before you set about attacking me, that you would look into your own heart first and seek God’s revelation for your life. Is this really the best you can do to build His kingdom?
I live in Mesa, AZ. My church became Hillsong, things have changed and some things have been unsettling to me. The other day I saw that Hillsong is going to Israel, and during a Google search came across a site that said Brian Houston’s father (and original founder of the church) was a pedophile. This was handled ok. However, whatever spirit was in that man could very much be permeating in the church. How they are dealing with the gay married couple in NY, is not how blatant sin is to be handle amongst the church. Paul did not allow the man who was having an affair with a married woman to stay in the church, he made him leave, since allowing that sin would be like a little yeast…it would spread. Here is an article on the gay married couple. Their goal is to change the church. And they’re talking to their gay friends about staying. They do not believe their homosexuality is a sin; they are hearing from God.
We know sin separates us from God, and homosexuality is an abomination. So what spirit are these men hearing?
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_55ca3de2e4b0923c12be5146
I grew up in the church that became Hillsong not long ago…made the final decision last week, time to go. I don’t want those spirits on me.
Yes, I have been to Hillsong, the church I grew up in transitioned to Hillsong not long ago. They walk so close on the line that you HAVE to be referring to your Bible to sew it. Like the issue of the homosexuals in NY. Allowing them to stay in the church, sounds so loving and Christ-like, right?
WRONG! Paul warned strongly against this. Please read 1 Corinthians foe yourself. For all of you saying this site is being judemental…stop using that term. Paul starts out saying he is not with this body of believers but is with them in spirit and is JUDGING them!
But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” – 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1Corinthians5:11-13&version=NIV
“I pray though before you set about attacking me, that you would look into your own heart first and seek God’s revelation for your life.”
Something YOU didn’t do before you posted here. You HYPOCRITE!
“Is this really the best you can do to build His kingdom?”
That question needs to be redirected back at YOU.