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“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”

04 Friday Mar 2016

Posted by Nailed Truth in Bobbie Houston, Brian Houston's Beliefs, Frank Houston, Hillsong Associations, Hillsong Scandal, Uncategorized

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“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”is a quotation from the 1599/ 1600 play Hamlet by William Shakespeare. It has been used as a figure of speech, in various phrasings, to describe someone’s too frequent and vehement attempts to convince others of some matter of which the opposite is true, thereby making themselves appear defensive, and insincere.” [Source]

Women’s Weekly have done a respectable job interviewing and covering a story of Brian and Bobbie Houston of the Hillsong church. This story was publicised and endorsed by Bobbie Houston herself.

I was a little nervous about this – but big pic it’s lovely. It was in context of my coming book “The Sisterhood”. Thank you to the Aust Women’s Weekly (and Juliet Rieden) for asking, for allowing me to meet you, have you in my home, have a few laughs … and in essence share my faith. And of course, the real miracle of “the Sisterhood” is in the THOUSANDS OF FABULOUS EVERYDAY AUSSIE WOMEN (& GIRLS) whose story this is. God bless you. #TheSisterhoodBook

Source: Bobbie Houston, Instagram, https://www.instagram.com/p/BB6AYZXIYwi/, Published 18/02/2016. (Accessed 02/03/2016.)

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We will be tackling other aspects of this Women’s Weekly magazine report in future articles. One of the biggest issues in the article we want to address now is Hillsong’s anti-biblical stance on homosexuality.

“[Homosexuality] is a dilemma because the Bible’s quite clear about some of the parameters that belong to those in leadership. And we’re still figuring it out… We want to bridge all the divides in society and I think that’s one of the final divides.”

Source: Bobbie Houston, Australian Women’s Weekly, We’re Not A Cult, March Issue, 2016.

Brian and Bobbie Houston Hillsong two-faced

Here is the first page of the “Special Report” from Women’s Weekly:

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Here is an excerpt from the Australian Women’s Weekly:

What really goes on at a Hillsong service

Every Sunday, more than 10,000 parishioners descend on the Hillsong chapel in Baulkham Hills – we investigate what they’re coming for.

It’s a bright Sunday morning in Baulkham Hills and already the traffic is backed up on the Solent Circuit. Smiling teens in high-visibility orange vests and back-to-front baseball caps embroidered with Y & F – Young and Free – have been directing cars for hours.

They are all heading the same way; to the Hills Campus to take part in uproarious worship at one of the four capacity services at the Hillsong convention centre and chapel.

Every Sunday, more than 10,000 parishioners descend on this hallowed quadrant in the Business Park in Sydney’s north-west, some by car, some in the church’s private buses, and significantly more will be tuning in via Hillsong TV from all over the country and the world.

Seventy-five per cent of the church’s followers are under 35 and 91 per cent under 50. They come perhaps for the razzamatazz that has made Hillsong Australia’s fastest-growing church. Whatever they come for, it’s working.

At 11am, the crowds move inside in waves, eager to nab the best seats. It’s a vast arena with stacked rows of seating around an apron stage. Immediately in front of the podium, overexcited teens fresh from summer youth camps swap complex handshakes and whoop and holler.

And then the lights dim and the music starts. The stage comes alive with a flashing light show. Images of the heavens, of water, of palm trees flash across the central screen, which is surrounded by stars and circles of beaming neon tubing. Meanwhile, the 14-strong band pumps out classics from Hillsong’s repertoire. “Holy, Holy, Holy is your name,” they sing as the crowd wave their arms and sway to the beat.

With parishioners drunk on the music, the service kicks off. First are the prayer lists, specific messages from people eager to get a special hotline to God and then a call for tithes and offerings as buckets are passed along each row. On the screen, there are details outlining the ways you can give – via the envelope on your chair, online, via the Hillsong app, BPAY.

A Youth Leader bounces onto the stage and introduces young student Jasmine, who retells her revelation of speaking in tongues at last week’s youth camp, to loud applause. Next is an advertisement for the Bible college next door, where would-be pastors learn their craft.

And finally the leader of Hillsong, impresario Brian Houston, dressed down in jeans and a loose white shirt, moves to the front. His rasping voice echoes around the centre. He talks about the sanctity of marriage, about spiritual solutions to human problems. His parishioners are rapt. They are rapt for more than an hour.

It’s easy to take aim at this happy, shiny group of Christians gorging on their Sunday fix of clappy worship, but one thing is clear, they all love this place and they’re all having fun.

“There’s excitement, you’re involved,” says one parishioner. “There’s praise and for a young person on a Friday or Saturday night, it’s better than going clubbing. And on a Sunday, it’s a great way to start the day.”

Read more of this story in the March issue of The Australian Women’s Weekly.

Source: By Juliet Rieden, What really goes on at a Hillsong service, Australian Women’s Weekly, http://www.aww.com.au/latest-news/celebrity/kate-winslet-settles-those-pregnancy-rumours-25774, Published 24/02/2016.

Inside Story – Lazy Journalism Allows Brian Houston’s Unfettered Spin

29 Monday Feb 2016

Posted by Nailed Truth in Brian Houston's Beliefs, Frank Houston, Hillsong Associations, Hillsong Conference, Hillsong Scandal, Hillsong Testimonies, Hillsong worship, Marketing, News Headlines, Royal Commission Hearing

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This article is broken into three sections, exposing the lazy journalism of Channel 9’s online report (Brian Houston speaks out on dealing with Hillsong’s nasty secret), on Hillsong Church. In section 1 we introduce the issues in Channel 9’s article. In section two we review the online report. And in section three you can examine all the sources to the material we referenced throughout our article.

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WHAT WAS CHANNEL 9 THINKING?

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More proof Brian Houston writes off Jesus Christ to invent his own religion

19 Monday Oct 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in Brian Houston's Beliefs, Hillsong Fascism

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1 Corinthians 15, 30 rules, cult, fake gospel, Hillsong, Hillsong cult, Hillsong pulpit, pulpit

HOUSTON’S METHODS REWRITING CHRISTIANITY

It is all too common to hear Brian Houston insist that

“the methods have to change for the church to stay relevant.” [Source]

This is cult-talk because the Bible is absolutely CLEAR that the church has been given a mission with specific methods and commandments to adhere to.

Hillsong has clearly rejected biblical Christianity from its inception in Sherbrook Hall, Sydney, which is why it falls into the category of an anti-Christian cult.

For further proof of Hillsong’s anti-Christian agenda, Brian Houston recently released an article titled “30 Rules for the Hillsong Australia Preaching & Teaching Team.” As you read through this, it becomes clear that these rules disqualify even Jesus Christ and His apostles from preaching behind the Hillsong “pulpit”.

Brian Houston appears to surpass what the Bible clearly says about preaching and exalts his ideas and methods for what should be preached on the Hillsong stage. This only confirms that Houston speaks not from God’s authority but from his own “sphere of authority” (see Rule 21) This is what happens when someone like Brian Houston REJECTS the pastoral office and replaces it with his New Age “motivational speaker” office.

Does Brian Houston Want Credibility As A Pastor Or As A Public Motivational Speaker?

The Christian pulpit can preach positive messages – but this is not its number one goal. Christian teaching is NOT meant to motivate people but should be anchor people on the historical writings of the prophets, the apostles and Christ. The message of repentance and the forgiveness of sins through Christ’s death and resurrection is THE #1 goal.

What’s even more damning is that THE #1 goal does not even make it in Brian Houston’s top 30 rules. In fact, his top 30 rules oppose the Christian message which was given to us by Jesus and His Apostles.

If Hillsong was a Christian church – this would have been rule number one:

“Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.” 1 Corinthians 15:1-8

Of first importance, Christ crucified is meant to be preached. This is THE message Brian Houston blatantly rejects, which explains why this does not even make it on the list. Brian Houston says in Rule 19 that preachers need to preach “from notes you’d be proud to show me“. This means that no minister in Hillsong will be tolerated if they preached the Christian gospel message since Brian Houston vehemently opposes it.

The final authority in Hillsong is Brian – not Christ. He determines what is relevant and what is not. And relevance is governed by popularity. This is why Hillsong is so dangerous to Christianity and needs to be rejected and seen for the cult that it is.

More can be said with this problematic list and its hypocrisy but what we have said should suffice for now.


Brian Houston writes,

30 Rules for the Hillsong Australia Preaching & Teaching Team

Have you ever said something you wished you hadn’t? What about in front of thousands of people? Perhaps you don’t stand on any ‘physical platforms’… well, don’t disengage, this blog is still for you!

It wasn’t long ago that I presented these key points on Hillsong’s Culture for Preaching and Teaching to our Staff, even though many of them don’t speak on our platform on a weekend or even during the week. Yet, all of us do have opportunity in one form or another to speak into the lives of others and it’s always wise to examine the way we communicate, what we communicate and the impact it has on our audience. I’ve learned some valuable lessons over 30 years of preaching and teaching in public – many through my own error.

Culture, atmosphere and DNA in a church is not accidental. Just like culture, atmosphere and DNA of your home is not. You have to be deliberate about it – especially from the ‘platform’. Leadership in this area is about making intentional and focused choices, and taking a degree of measured risk.

So wherever you have the chance to input into others – take a look at these guidelines to building a strong platform teaching culture in your church or homegroup – many of them can also be applied to your family life or worklife. There are 30 points – one for each year of experience!

Every message…

1. IS POSITIVE.
Don’t preach to an individual – using the platform to get a personal message across to an individual is cowardly and blesses no one.
2. IS IN LINE WITH OUR BELIEF.
Don’t contradict basic fundamentals and doctrine. Make sure you know what they are BEFORE you take the platform.
3. HAS A SET TIME LIMIT.
Hillsong Church typically has a 35-minute time limit on messages. Be a good steward of people’s time. Be reliable. You can do a lot of waffling in 60 minutes! You are entrusted as a steward of the platform you are on – the moment you go over time, you are outside of your authority!
4. MUST BE PROVEN IN THE BIBLE.
If you can’t prove it, don’t say it. The platform is not for your opinions, it is God’s Word that matters. Every Scripture reference must be in context and within the tenure of Scripture = credibility and respect.
5. MANY HOURS OF MEDITATION, PREPARATION & FAMILIARISATION.
All 3 are important. 1) Think things through. 2) Get the structure as polished as you can – it must impact. 3) Be familiar with your message so you get it across clearly and effectively.
6. CHECKED FOR OVERUSE OF “I”.
It is not about you. People will see through a self-focused message and it doesn’t build others.
7. FOCUSED ON HELPING, NOT IMPRESSING.
Joyce Meyer once made a comment that really helped me with this, after I had asked her if she ever gets nervous? She said: “I never think about myself, I just think about helping people.” This attitude will keep your focus on course.
8. REINFORCING – NEVER CONTRADICTING – OUR CULTURAL VALUES.
Wherever you are speaking, you must respect the cultural values of that platform. Encourage the congregation to engage with what is local and relevant.
9. FROM A NEW TESTAMENT PERSPECTIVE.
By all means use the Old Testament, but always through the lens of the New Covenant of grace – through the cross of Christ. Otherwise we are in danger of preaching law and condemnation rather than building people up.
10. A REFLECTION OF THE LIFE YOU ARE LIVING, NOT JUST THE SERMON YOU ARE PREACHING.
Be authentic. The best messages come out of our own struggles and journeys. People sense authenticity as well as a lack of it. No matter how professional or eloquent you are as a speaker, you won’t build anything into people’s lives if you lack authenticity.
11. A REFLECTION OF YOUR PERSONALITY, NOT AN IMITATION OF SOMEONE ELSE.
This was one of the hardest lessons for me to learn but one of the most important. You’ll always be your best if you are being yourself – It’s not about being perfect or about a certain ‘style’. Be your best self and don’t use this freedom as an excuse to support rebellion or negativity.
12. AFFECTS PEOPLE’S MONDAYS, NOT JUST SUNDAY.
In other words, your message needs to be applicable to people’s daily lives. The greatest compliment someone who is doing well in life can give me is to say, “All I’ve ever done is to take the principles that have been taught in church and put them into practice.” – I love hearing that sort of testimony!
13. NOT STRAYING INTO THINGS YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND.
Stay within your boundaries. Keep learning, but don’t preach outside your understanding. Stick to what you know but also continue to grow in what you know and in your knowledge of the Word. 1 Timothy 3 in The Message says of the leader, “He must know what he is talking about”. Preparation is a discipline.
14. REFLECTING WHAT WE ARE FOR, NOT AGAINST.
Remember, our lives should reflect what we are for and not just what we are against. Preaching always against things leaves people feeling downcast.
15. LEAVES PEOPLE FEELING BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES THAN WHEN THEY CAME IN.
I intentionally approach every service by trying to create an encouraging environment. The world doesn’t input positive messages into people very much – between the newspaper and the television, people are starving for messages of hope and encouragement!
16. EASILY TRANSITIONED INTO AN ALTAR-CALL.
If people are being impacted and reached during your message, then the altar call moment will be a smoother and easier transition. (HOWEVER, you cannot let your confidence be measured by how many people get saved when you speak.)
17. NOTEWORTHY.
Are people taking notes? Make sure people understand what you are saying, that there is substance to it, and that you are not boring. Be compelling and helpful to people.
18. SEES HUMOUR AS A BONUS, NOT THE GOAL.
Humour is a tool, but it is not the goal. If you are not good at being funny, don’t try. Any use of humour should serve the message – but never build your message around a funny story or joke.
19. PREACHED FROM NOTES YOU’D BE PROUD TO SHOW ME.
You should have some content in your notes: Key statements, scriptures, examples. Content – not neatness – is the goal. Your notes should reflect the hard work you’ve put in.
20. EXALTS JESUS AND BRINGS GLORY TO GOD.
Be deliberate about this. “God” means many things to many people, so ensure you are presenting Jesus. People don’t need motivational speeches, they need the Word of God and AN EMPHASIS ON Jesus Christ.
21. REFLECTS YOUR LEVEL OF AUTHORITY.
Speak within your sphere of authority, not outside of your credibility. Unless you have the right credibility or platform to confront and challenge people, then don’t. It is always better to encourage people.
22. PROJECTS CONFIDENT HUMILITY.
Minimise “I”, “me” and “my”. Be confident, not weak or false. I know who I am and that God has entrusted me with the platform. I know I belong here, but at the same time, I recognise I didn’t earn the right and I am accountable to Him for how I handle it. It’s about bringing glory to God – keep the main thing the main thing.
23. COMBINES FAITH WITH TRANSPARENCY.
It’s not about exposing and highlighting our strengths and weaknesses, but balancing these examples to enhance the message – our weakness or strength is not the message. It’s not about being ashamed of the blessing but people benefit more from understanding the journey and challenges that you had to overcome to get there. People relate to and learn more from your struggles – don’t present yourself as perfect. Conversely, don’t be negative and down all the time – people need to be encouraged in their faith; they want to listen to an overcomer.
24. TELLING NOT JUST WHAT, BUT HOW.
It’s more challenging to tell people how to outwork the principles we teach. I remember early in my ministry a man came up to me after I preached on loving God with all your heat, soul and strength and he said, “I want to do that, but how do I do it?” It’s easy to tell people what they should do but more challenging to tell them how.
25. LEFT BEHIND ON MONDAY.
Don’t do post-mortems or beat yourself afterwards… AND be careful not to get too full of how great you think you were. Time moves on. Be good at walking away.
26. FOCUSED AS MUCH ON DELIVERY AS CONTENT.
If you aren’t good at communicating your message, then no matter how good the content is, it will get lost on people. Say it in a way that best connects with the hearts of people.
27. AWARE OF A GREATER AUDIENCE THAN THE ROOM.
The days are long gone when the possibility of being recorded in one form or another is absent – whether by individuals on phones or corporately on cameras or sound-systems. Even though you may be speaking to church family, you have to remember your message will more than likely go beyond the family – so nothing is entirely safe in that sense. Filter everything you say through this reality.
28. LISTENED TO OR WATCHED BY YOU.
Ask for a copy of your message for review and don’t worry about appearing proud by asking – it’s a necessary part of growing as a speaker. Get used to how you sound and get past the ‘cringe-factor’. By observing and listening to yourself, you will notice habits and other distractions that you can fix. Learn to love the way you sound – if you don’t, no one else will.
29. HELPING PEOPLE OVERCOME AND BELIEVE WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT THEM.
Without exception. Remind people about what God says about them – there’s a lot of opposition in the world and you have an opportunity to lift people up and speak life to them – maximise it
30. ABLE TO STAND ALONE IN A NEWSPAPER.
Every message should include points that would stand alone in the newspaper. For example, years ago I wrote a book with a controversial title. I was young at the time and thought it was a great idea to use a controversial title. But as Hillsong’s profile (and my own profile grew), I may as well have drawn a bullseye on my forehead. It became fodder for journalists wanting to criticise it’s content. Let’s assume everything you say is quotable and can be published in a newspaper – how does it stand then? Think about how would you sound without your spirit and physical presence on it – quoted in black and white?

Always take responsibility for what you say and never assume anything. It is an enormous responsibility that we have when it comes to carrying the message of Jesus Christ to this world. Ignorance is never an excuse, so decide today that you are done with excuses. Apply wisdom and understanding to the message on your life and the platform you have been given – and the potential and influence on your life will continue to grow and extend well ‘above and beyond’.

Source: By Brian Houston, 30 Rules for the Hillsong Australia Preaching & Teaching Team, http://brianchouston.com/blog/2015/08/30-rules-of-the-hillsong-preaching-platform/, 11/08/2015. (Accessed 21/09/2015.)

Hillsong cult bullies Tanya Levin & again slanders her for causing “significant disruption”

09 Wednesday Sep 2015

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Tanya Levin just released a new letter she received from Hillsong cult elder, George Aghajanian.

Royal Commission - George Aghajanian

Notice the false accusation made by Hillsong in this letter where they say Levin “caused significant disruption to the meetings you attended”.


“We refer to your prior attendance at Hillsong Church and associated conferences where you have caused significant disruption to the meetings you attended.

As a result of your conduct, we require that you immediately and permanently cease to enter any of our Church properties or any property that is hired or utilized for the purposes of facilitating a Church event or activity.

– Your right as a member of the public to enter into any of our private premises is unequivocally withdrawn;

– You are not permitted to enter any of our Church properties;

– If you choose to ignore this notice and enter any of our Church properties or events, we will ask you to leave and further reserve the right to pursue an action for trespass. We may immediately notify the police of your breach of this Banning Notice;

– For the purpose of clarification, Church properties include any property associated with the religious services or administration of Hillsong Church, including but not limited to buildings located at 1-5 Solent Circuit, Baulkham Hills NSW 2153.

You may be also prosecuted should you fail to comply with this Banning Notice.

Regards

George Aghajanian
General Manager

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This level of integrity displayed fom Hillsong does not surprise us. In fact, we’re expecting another defaming and unChristian article from Hillsong’s propaganda “Bible” Society rag against Tanya Levin.

Let the sledge BEGIN!

Let the sledge BEGIN!

Did Carl Lentz mislead James White of Alpha Omega Ministries?

11 Tuesday Aug 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in Brian Houston's Beliefs, Hillsong Associations, Hillsong Fascism

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Alpha & Omega ministries, Carl Lentz, cult, Dr James White, Hillsong, Hillsong cult, homosexuality, James White, Lentz, liar, lying, mislead, postmodern obfuscation

For decades we have watched Hillsong act underhanded to Christians who question their practices and towards media who do their best to accurately report on the Hillsong movement. We are very concerned seeing similar games played by Hillsong behind the scenes to respected ministers and leaders.

Dr. James White is a respected Christian man in the field of discernment and apologetics. He sometimes weighs in on important church issues and recently decided to tackle the controversy surrounding Hillsong’s vague stance on homosexuality.
James WhiteWe wish to highlight what James White recently said on his show titled ‘Seer Stones, Hillsong Church, and KJVOnly Deceitfulness’:

“So when someone says, “Jesus never addressed this issue,” they’re just ignorant. They just don’t know what they are talking about. And Carl says, “I know that. I agree. And it was a combination of my not speaking clearly enough and them not following up with what I said afterward where I said those things.”

So, you know. Okay I hear you. Got it. Alright.

I tried to be- if I’m going to criticise, I want to try to be fair, and I want to try to be accurate. And the fact is, there are sources amongst conservative Christians that are trusted that shouldn’t be. We re-post stuff that isn’t always overally accurate. And my concern was exactly that. My concern was exactly that. Because, these are important issues. And when we are not- when we don’t do our homework and we just go with the twelve-gate shotgun blast from the start, we may think we are doing the Elijah thing. But in reality we are only hurting ourselves. Because then people can just focus on that and not focus upon what the real issue is.”

Source: James White, Seer Stones, Hillsong Church, and KJVOnly Deceitfulness, Alpha & Omega Ministries, http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/index.php/2015/08/05/seer-stones-hillsong-church-and-kjvonly-deceitfulness/, 26:17-27:50, Published 05/08/2015. (Accessed 10/08/2015.)

One has to wonder what Carl Lentz disclosed in that conversation with James White.

This is because we have the impression that Dr. James White had trouble finding the source of this quote from Carl Lentz and we find it odd that Carl Lentz didn’t give him the audio/source or apologise for his sloppy witness on the CNN program.

You can find this uploaded media presentation with the relevant quote (9:18-10:08) in the Poppy Harlow interview, on the ‘Pastor Carl Lentz’ YouTube channel.

proof_YouTube-CarlLStupidStatement_08-08-2015Below the video, you can read:

Carl Lentz 2015 sermons | Carl Lentz sermons.
Directed by Carl Lentz
Be Blessed As You Grow In Grace And Knowledge and share the videos with your friends so that they maybe blessed too.

Source: Pastor Carl Lentz, Carl Lentz | Tattooed Megapastor Carl Lentz The Next Joel Osteen Mar 12,2015, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPOKqMonUc8, Uploaded 10/03/2015. (Accessed 10/08/2015.)

So why didn’t Carl Lentz “bless” James White?

Just in case it may be pulled by Hillsong, here is another screen grab of this video from the ‘Pastor Carl Lentz’ channel (titled ‘Carl Lentz | Tattooed Megapastor Carl Lentz The Next Joel Osteen Mar 12,2015‘):

proof_YouTube-CarlLStupidStatement3_10-08-2015If Carl is protesting to James White “that it was a combination of [him] not speaking clearly enough and them not following up with what [he] said afterward where [he] said those things,” then why has he supposedly uploaded this video on his own YouTube channel?

[09:18-09:20] Announcer: “Are gay men and women welcome in the church?”

[09:21-09:24] Carl Lentz: “Absolutely. We have a lot of gay men and women in the church and I pray we always do.”

[09:25-09:30] Laura Lentz: “It’s not our place to tell anyone how they should live. That’s there journey.”

[09:31-9:37] Announcer: “Every article I’ve read about you guys says, “he declined to discuss gay marriage.’”

[9:37-10:08] Carl Lentz: “Yeah, it’s a misquote because I do discuss it just not the way people want me to. When it comes to homosexuality, I refuse to let another human being or a media moment dictate how we approach it. Jesus was in the thick of an area where homosexuality, just like it is today, was wildly prevalent. And I’m still waiting for someone to show me the quote where Jesus addressed it on the record in front of people. You won’t find it because he never did.”

Source: Pastor Carl Lentz, YouTube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QJZXVdwvO8, Uploaded 07/06/2/15. 09/08/2015. (Accessed 09/08/2015.)

In Australia, Hillsong has been saying for decades that the media are great (only when they look good). However, whenever the Australian media report Hillsong peddling Word of Faith or prosperity heresy; reported on scandals; report on leadership abusing or ripping off it’s members financially, etc, Hillsong are quick to demonise, distort, defame and damn the media organisation.

When you watch the CNN media report, it is not tearing into Hillsong. This would make sense as to why Carl Lentz would record this and upload it.

proof_YouTube-CarlLStupidStatement2_08-08-2015Now that he is being rightly condemned as being “ignorant” or “deceitful” by using that argument in the report, both Lentz and Houston are now defaulting to their typical defamation statements against the media, that being that they were taken out of context or misrepresented.

Thus Carl Lentz’ dialogue with White appears to be disingenuous in regards to the media misrepresenting him. [edit 11/08/2015] If he thought they misrepresented him to begin with, why did he [supposedly] upload that video to his YouTube account? [/edit]

Dr. James White, if you are reading our site, please understand that we respect your work and are perturbed that Carl Lentz was not upfront and honest with you about his views regarding homosexuality. We believe that if you are given well documented evidence against Carl Lentz, you will confront him for his rejection of God’s Word.


[Edit: Carl Lentz has responded to this which we will be addressing:

Carl Lentz  August 11, 2015 at 3:49 am
Hi! I actually don’t have a YouTube channel, so that’s unfortunate here in regards to your attempt to discredit me. Hard for me to upload videos on a site I don’t actually have. Make sure you do just a little bit of homework before you build your attack, might make it a little more believable. James white is a respectable man, who actually called to check facts. What’s funny is he actually talks about people like you the podcast you posted! Hilarious. In your eagneress to tear down, don’t rush the fact checking part. God bless you!

Carl Lentz: guy who has no YouTube channel.

Source: Carl Lentz, Did Carl Lentz mislead James White of Alpha Omega Ministries?, ChurchWatch Central, http://churchwatchcentral.com/2015/08/10/did-carl-lentz-mislead-james-white-of-alpha-omega-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1871, Published 11/08/2015. (Accessed 11/08/2015.)

The EIC interview Hillsong’s slick marketing Prophet.

26 Sunday Jul 2015

Posted by Nailed Truth in Associations, Books, Marketing, News Headlines, Royal Commission Hearing

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The Evangelical Industrial Complex interviewed Brian Houston while his Hillsong Conference was underway. This interview was a clear plug for Houston’s Conference and to bolster the Bible Society’s status.

A few important issues emerged while Mr Sandeman interviewed Brian Houston:

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Atheist upset at “being deceived by” Hillsong’s Brian Houston

12 Sunday Jul 2015

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Hillsong prides itself in being “relevant.” Brian Houston insists that the church must change it’s methods, or die. Yet it is because of this very reason that there is no accountability for “Pastors” in these institutions. After Brian Houston’s deceitful stunt by misleading people into believing he uninvited Driscoll to speak only to have him speak in a prerecorded interview at Hillsong Conference 2015, many believers and non-believers alike feel they can’t trust these so-called “religious leaders.”

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The reason why we do give non-believing voices on this site is because so few Christians are standing up to this corrupt new religion that masquerades itself as Christianity. When you read this piece below by Benjamin Ady, please note how this way of doing “new church” is actually no church at all. Ady’s observations about Houston are spot on.

My experience of being deceived by Australia’s most powerful celebrity pastor

This is a guest post from my friend Benjamin Ady. Benjamin lives in Australia. He is an atheist. He is an honest, caring and extremely intelligent guy. He also spearheaded the campaign to remove Mark Driscoll from the Hillsong Conference, which is something concerned Christians should have done. The campaign worked, that is, until the senior pastor of Hillsong reneged on his promise, and interviewed Driscoll anyway. I asked Benjamin to tell the story.

My name is Benjamin Ady. I lived in Seattle Washington from the age of 13, in 1987, almost continuously until late 2009, when I and my small family moved to Melbourne, Australia. I grew up as part of a very small, very sectarian Christian church which was part of a large, loose network of such churches in the United States call the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches–known to survivors of such churches as IFB. I grew up inundated and surrounded by the Christian Scriptures, which were of great import to my small community, and memorised large sections of the New Testament and some from the Old Testament. I realised years later, when I got a slightly wider view of the world, that I’d been given a really delicious educational gift, as the entire literature and history of the US/Anglo culture is infused with the stories of the Old and New Testaments, and I recognise every single allusion.

In 2007/2008, I gradually completed a transition/deconversion out of Christianity. I had been aware of this deconversion process for a while, and one day while in conversation with my good friend Nathalie, I realised I no longer believed Jesus rose from the dead, and that as such, I could really no longer in any sense call myself a Christian. (I acknowledge here that there are of course very small communities of people within worldwide Christianity who do call themselves Christians and yet don’t believe Jesus rose from the dead, and I don’t have any argument with or judgement against these people.) For me, the transition out of Christianity correlated with a much larger internal transition from the long term personal experience of fairly high levels of anxiety and depression and a sense of worthlessness and purposelessness toward my experience now, which is one of rather an enormous amount of joy and a much greater skill in loving myself and other people.

Now that I’ve given a tiny bit of context–on to the story! Throughout the 2000s and 2010s, I and a number of both Christian and not-Christian friends of mine in Seattle were keeping our eyes on a growingly successful megachurch pastor in Seattle–Mark Driscoll. Mark’s church, Mars Hill, grew to 15,000 members across more than a dozen campuses mostly in Seattle by 2013/2014. This all happened in the 2nd least churched city in the United States. As my friend Jim Henderson points out in his book “Question Mark: Why the church Welcomes Bullies and How to Stop It”, Mark was almost entirely attracting young people who had a lot of desire for certainty and black/whiteness in a culture and more specifically in a city that was increasingly embracing post-modernism and rather a gigantic palette of shades of gray. The problem was that as young people, these folks mostly lacked the life-experience to recognise in Mark Driscoll an abusive, violent bully–something which was exceedingly and increasingly obvious to those of us with a bit more life experience.

In 2014, much of Mark Driscoll’s long term pattern of terrible, abusive behaviour became, through a series of events, much much more public. Among the scores of former staff members and thousands of former church members who had been treated really hideously, a brave and amazing group of folks emerged who decided that they were done with seeing ever more young people who were abused and driven right out of Christianity and would probably never return. In 2014 these folks finally gained enough of a voice and enough exposure that by the end of 2014, Mars Hill Church literally disintegrated and ceased to exist as an entity. An internal group of pastors were tasked with investigating formal charges which were brought against Mr. Driscoll, and just before the results of the their investigation could be made public, Mark Driscoll “audibly heard the voice of God” telling him to resign. The results of that investigation were suppressed (and still haven’t been made public) by a tiny group of wealthy powerful men whom Mark Driscoll had connived to leave holding all the power in this gigantic, multi-million dollar organisation.

Almost immediately after the disintegration of Mars Hill, Mark Driscoll began his clearly well planned comeback. Ignoring the trauma and pleas of his thousands of victims, a number of powerful mega-church pastors throughout the US began inviting Driscoll to speak at their churches. He and they worked together to spin a narrative in which Driscoll himself was the victim, and all those people he had abused were themselves the abusers, refusing to forgive him and therefore obviously not genuine followers of Jesus. Mega-church pastors even broke down in tears as they empathised with the terrible way this multi-millionaire former mega-church pastor had so narrowly escaped the results of the investigation by his own church’s pastors via God audibly speaking to him telling him to resign.

The crown jewel of Mark Driscoll’s comeback tour was an appearance at the conference of the most powerful and popular church in Australia–Hillsong. It’s widely known in Australia that Hillsong has inroads to the highest level of both NSW state government and the federal Australian government, with the prime minister and other highly placed politicians having attended and spoken at their annual conference in years past. In fact, so great is their power that when the senior lawyer for the Royal Commission into Institutional child sexual abuse recommended last year that their senior pastor, Brian Houston, be investigated by the NSW police for breaking the law in failing to report his pedophile father, HIllsong’s founding pastor Frank Houston, to the police, he was utterly ignored. It’s very convenient for Hillsong and Brian Houston that the NSW police commissioner is a friend of the Houston family who attended Frank Houston’s funeral, during which Frank was lionised, and during which Frank’s history of sexually abusing minors in the church was described as “some big mistakes”.

Not only is Hillsong powerful in Australia–they’re also gigantic in the United States, where hundreds of thousand of churches and scores of millions of Christians sing and buy Hillsong’s enormously popular praise and worship music. Long before moving to Australia myself, I had heard of Hillsong because I myself, and the super-conservative, fundamentalist church I grew up in, loved their worship music and used it regularly during worship services. Given all this–one can easily see why an appearance at Hillsong’s annual conference was all Mark Driscoll could have imagined in his sweetest dreams, as part of his comeback tour. This appearance would grant him a level of kudos, glory, and religious power-currency unavailable almost anywhere else on the planet. It would be akin to a disgraced band being invited to open for U2 or Taylor Swift.

As a person from Seattle now living in Australia, and with personal friends who had been terribly abused and hurt by Mark Driscoll, I felt very unhappy about Driscoll’s appearance at Hillsong Conference here in Australia. It was almost as if this toxic ex-pastor, having been basically kicked out of Seattle, was now following me with his toxic, abusive Christianity all the way down here to Australia. So I decided to see if I couldn’t get his appearance cancelled. Honestly, I thought chances were slim to zilch. I’m just a regular working fellow with a middling income and hardly any wealth, and putting myself up against the gigantic power structure and vast wealth of Hillsong, coupled with the wealth, power, and still-in-some-circles popularity of Mark Driscoll seemed fairly futile. Nevertheless, I decided to give it my best go.

In the 8-10 weeks before the HIllsong Conference in Sydney in late June this year, I devoted about 100 hours and about $500, along with all the creativity and networking I could muster, towards this end. I ended up connecting with a number of Hillsong insiders and outsiders who seemed to be very much on board with the idea of getting Driscoll’s appearance cancelled. Finally, much to my surprise, delight, and amazement, just a few weeks before the conference, a media firestorm erupted. Suddenly, there were gigantic, powerful groups jumping in on my side, and again, amazingly, much to my enormous surprise and delight, and under enormous pressure from pro-women groups and powerful media figures, as well as, no doubt, a number of highly placed people including leaders within his own church, Brian Houston acquiesced to our request and agreed to cancel Driscoll’s appearance at the conference. His decision to cancel Driscoll’s appearance was widely reported in newspapers in both Australia, the United States, and the UK.

As you can imagine, Driscoll’s many victims in Seattle were amazed and delighted, as were the many pro-women Hillsong Insiders and Outsiders who had joined our campaign. Just as his appearance at Hillsong Conference was the crown jewel in Driscoll’s comeback plan, his rejection from that same conference represented a gigantic speed bump in his comeback. Given Hillsong’s vast popularity in the United States, their cancellation of his appearance would certainly very much mute plans for his appearance at even more megachurches in the US in the future. We were actually genuinely delighted for Driscoll himself, as we hoped that the cancellation of his appearance would provide a space and opportunity for him to more fully appreciate and understand the breadth and depth of his abusive behaviour and to move towards genuine change and genuine apologies to and reconciliation with his victims, many of whom he has ongoingly refused to interact with despite their ongoing attempts to reach out to him over the years.

In the context of all of the above, you can imagine my shock upon hearing, on the 3rd day of my annual vacation time with my little family, that Brian Houston had actually decided to go ahead with an interview with Mr. Driscoll at Hillsong Conference anyway. It turns out in the end he had actively deceived me and the many other Australians who had jumped on board to pressure him to cancel Driscoll’s appearance, as well as the media, with a carefully worded announcement which we all understood to mean that Driscoll’s appearance was being cancelled, whereas technically reading the letter of the announcement Houston had left open a loophole, as it were, by means of which he could still record an interview with Driscoll and then broadcast it at the conference without having technically “lied”.

After having had a few days to get over my initial shock, and even to notice and gently laugh at myself for a certain amount of judgement towards Houston’s deception, I have reached the point where I can look at it slightly more dispassionately and ask with curiosity “Hmmmm. I wonder why he did that?”

Of course ultimately such a question can only be answered by Houston himself. But I have some thoughts on it. My initial conjecture involves cowardice. He wanted to do the interview, but didn’t want to have to face and deal with the public outrage–so he just lied. This seems quite a plausible explanation to me.

However, I don’t think it might be the whole story. This because having developed a few channels with Hillsong Insiders, I’ve heard another explanation. I’ve heard that Houston has communicated to high-level Hillsong insiders that the reasons revolve around a framework of insiders and outsiders. What I’ve heard is that Brian has expressed that if it had been church insiders who had run the campaign against Driscoll’s appearance, he would have been more open to actually cancelling Driscoll’s appearance. But instead, because the bulk of the pressure was brought by folks who were obviously church-outsiders, Houston felt that A. He didn’t really have to listen to a word we said and B. It was totally okay to intentionally deceive us.

Obviously I have no idea whether this latter explanation is true or not. But it strikes me as even more plausible than my first conjecture. It makes enormous sense to me. Houston is operating the largest, most powerful, and most successful church in a nation mostly composed of church outsiders–a nation where much more so than in the US most people look down a bit at the church and Christianity. It’s like the unchurchiness of Seattle, which is already very unusual for the United States, multiplied by 100 and made nationwide. To wit, the most recent prime minister of Australia was an openly declared atheist. It makes sense to me that in such a context, Houston would both enormously identify with and like Driscoll, and would have a kind of “f*** you” attitude towards critical church-outsiders trying to pressure him to do things in a certain way–an attitude that matches up quite well with Driscoll’s own attitude.

This is a bit of an eye opener for me. I had been operating from the belief that I was the underdog trying to have a conversation with the very powerful person. But it seems to me that at least in this interaction, he has seen himself as the underdog, and more-than-that, from that mindset, rather than trying to have a conversation with those of us he sees as critical bullies, he has kind of written us off–not worth trying to talk to. I honestly don’t know where that leaves us, but I have to say it’s really really not attractive, and really doesn’t seem at all like Jesus, who was at least willing to converse authentically with both outsiders and insiders, and who never, as best I can tell, acted out of cowardice.

Source: By Phil Wyman, My experience of being deceived by Australia’s most powerful celebrity pastor, Burning Religion, http://burningreligion.com/2015/07/07/my-experience-of-being-deceived-by-australias-most-powerful-celebrity-pastor/, Published 07/07/2015. (Accessed 08/07/2015.)

George Aghajanian Responds To The Steve West Media Saga

15 Friday May 2015

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Quite a while ago, we looked at Steve West, and the Australian media, expose the appalling systematic and problematic behaviour found in Hillsong and its leadership.

The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 1)
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 2)
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 3)
The Steve West & Hillsong Saga (Part 4)
When Steve West Went To The Media

What came out of this media saga was Brian Houston’s personal response:

Brian Houston Responds To The Steve West Media Saga

While this response was for his church members and external audiences, Brian Houston’s friend George Aghajanian also responded to the media by writing a letter specifically to Hillsong members.

There were a few sections in the letter below that caught our eye which we will respond to in future articles (some in relation to the Royal Commission) . However, this got Steve West’s attention:

“If you have any questions or concerns, I would encourage you to speak to our leadership or pastoral team. Our website contains further information on our church governance policies and you can always speak directly to me or my team.”

Steve West exposed the facade of George Aghajanian and the “Elders and Board of Hillsong Church”.

I noted dryly that George said in the letter that Hillsong doesn’t refuse to meet up with people who want to see the books.

That was never my allegation.

I met up with George, yes.

But he showed me NOTHING.

Source: Steve West (Emblazoned), Hillsong’s Snailing Love for Brian Houston, Signposts02, https://signposts02.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/hillsongs-snailing-love-for-brian-houston/#comment-12447, Published 9/08/2010 AT 10:47 PM. (Accessed 15/05/2015.)

The point is, no one can trust Hillsong’s leaders when they resort to postmodern obfuscation and word games. That is, unless you have been conditioned by this type of trickery you are about to read.

Signposts02 writes,

Now I was emailed by an anonymous person what George Aghajanian was doing in Hillsong. He is the Hillsong general manager and he has snail-mailed this letter during the week about the Sunday Telegraph article.

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Source: S&P, Hillsong’s Snailing Love for Brian Houston, Signposts02, https://signposts02.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/hillsongs-snailing-love-for-brian-houston/, Published 09/08/2010. (Accessed 15/05/2015.)

“Tabloid trash” exposing Hillsong of lying?

26 Sunday Apr 2015

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LOVE, LEAD, LIE

We noted in our previous article Brian Houston retweeting Hillsong’s tweet of their ‘Hillsong Statement’ about the A Current Affairs (ACA) report. This is what the Hillsong Tweet read:

Statement by Hillsong Church on A Current Affair story: http://hil.so/qzpw
Source: Hillsong Church, https://twitter.com/hillsong/status/590754683674853376, 10:51 PM – 21 Apr 2015. (Accessed 24/04/2015.)

We have already reviewed this “Official Statement” from Hillsong:

Which “tabloid trash” do you believe?
Brian Houston in damage control… again… and again…and again.

What occurred after Hillsong issued that statement was breathtaking.

THE REPORTER AND THE RORTER

One of the issues that the A Current Affairs report highlighted was the fact that Hillsong pressures people to give money.

Hillsong have continually lied to the general public about this issue and this is a lie that we at Church Watch have exposed repeatedly.

We would like to remind our readers that Brian Houston himself pressures his members to give money so they can be right before God and be in the will of God. (This false teaching absolutely perverts the foundational teachings of Christianity and is in fact a damnable heresy.) As you can see, Houston is scamming people financially into believing that they can only prosper in God if they give money to God/Hillsong.

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On the 22nd of April, Tracy Grimshaw from A Current Affair tweeted ,

@FArimado we ask Hillsong constantly to talk to us about how the donations are spent. They will not. “If only” they would..
Source: Tracy Grimshaw, Twitter, https://twitter.com/tracygrimshaw/status/590997174332227584, 2:54 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 25/04/2015.)

It was this phrase from Brian Houston that caught our attention:

“It’s not as though ACA is known for its credibility”.

Who is lying?  Who’s credibility is at stake here? Sadly, many people are tweeting that this is not a good look for a church. And as @Dan_Nolan9 observed, “Not a good look for a church – creating falsehoods in a statement accusing ACA of falsehoods”.

This because ACA responded to Hillsong’s original tweet alerting people to the Hillsong Statement. The statement claimed “the program made no attempt to contact us to get the facts – or even hear our perspective – before airing this piece of fiction”.

Ben McCormack from ACA tweeted a few times to people who accused ACA of not contacting Hillsong.

@hillsong this statement by Hillsong is false. ACA contacted the church by phone and email and we got no response.
Source: Ben McCormack, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BenMcCormack9/status/591090162039279616/photo/1, 9:04 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 25/04/2015.)

This tweet included the following evidence to prove that Hillsong’s statement was a farce:

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He also tweeted later with the same attachments,

@Markedw @tracygrimshaw @hillsong we contacted them on 4 separate occasions. Don’t fall for more Hillsong dishonesty.
Source: Ben McCormack, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BenMcCormack9/status/591105999525650432, 10:07 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 25/04/2015.)

After the news team publicly exposed Hillsong for not being honest in their official Hillsong Statement, Brian Houston contacted Ben McCormack. Do you think Brian Houston apologised for his false allegation?

This exchange took place on the 23rd of April, 2015:

Brian Houston:
@benmccormack9 Hey.. How about coming to have a coffee with me one day? You got the guts to do that? Just you and me.

Ben McCormack:
@BrianCHouston love to meet. Why not do an interview on camera & answer some questions too? You got the guts to do that?

Brian Houston:
@BenMcCormack9 The Q’s are not the issue. It’s your skewered editing & underhanded tactics that are the problem. So no..!

Ben McCormack:
@BrianCHouston now there’s a surprise.

Ben McCormack:
@BrianCHouston our offer of an interview remains open..

Brian Houston:
@BenMcCormack9 well my offer of a coffee with no hidden recording or cameras stands. It’s not as though ACA is known for its credibility!!

Ben McCormack:
@BrianCHouston we live to give Brian.. Just like your followers.

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You’d think that excellent leadership could check all their emails or even check with ACA, before publicly accusing ACA of lying. (Especially when the program was being advertised in advance.) Once again, we are seeing another unsound, unwise and poor leadership example in Hillsong Church.

So why should Bobbie and Brian Houston set themselves up as leadership mentors for other churches to follow?

Live Love Lie

Live Love Lie

Brian Houston in damage control… again… and again…and again.

23 Thursday Apr 2015

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When a person’s “image” starts to be bought into question through their own conduct, it’s not uncommon for that person to automatically kick into damage control mode. Brian Houston is doing just this over the recent A Current Affair report.

Hillsong: The multi-million dollar “crazy cult”

As a result of this report, Hillsong published a very lethal statement lambasting the media and even political figure Nick Xenophon. Houston retweeted the article from Hillsong:

RT @hillsong: Statement by Hillsong Church on A Current Affair story: http://hil.so/qzpw Source: Brian Houston, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BrianCHouston/status/590987698384560128, 2:17 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 23/04/2015.)

The statement and our analysis of it can be read here:

Which “tabloid trash” do you believe?

The problem with Brian Houston’s damage control is that it actually is doing more harm than good. For instance, the more he says, the more easier it is to spot his hypocrisy online. For example, Brian Houston tweeted the following:

Leaders goal: Lead with grace, even in the face of opposition. Lead with love, even when under attack! Source: Brian Houston, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BrianCHouston/status/590964263788761088, 12:43 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 23/04/2015.)

Love is a very compelling argument!! Source: Brian Houston, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BrianCHouston/status/590964263788761088, 12:43 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 23/04/2015.)

However, Brian Houston seems to think that when he throws words around like “love”, “grace” and “leaders goal”, it means Mr Houston can be justified to say things like this:

When A Current Affair lie and malign @hillsong (which they have done regularly) they insult the intelligence of the thousands who attend. Source: Brian Houston, Twitter, https://twitter.com/BrianCHouston/status/590990488259420160, 2:28 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 23/04/2015.)

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It’s sad seeing Tim Costello become involved by aligning not only himself but World Vision in this story as well.

I’ve personally witnessed the generosity of @hillsong-partnering with @WorldVisionAus after Typhoon Haiyan @BrianCHouston #hillsongchurch Source: Tim Costello, Twitter, https://twitter.com/TimCostello/status/590738654601093120, 2:28 PM – 22 Apr 2015. (Accessed 23/04/2015.)

In closing, there’s an important question still to be asked.

Why didn’t Brian Houston call out Reverend Bill Crews for his strong statements against Hillsong during his interview on the ACA segment?  

Rick Xenophon has been quite vocal for years about addressing cults and religious movements and their impact on families. What is the difference between Rick Xenophon and Reverend Bill Crews in their appeal for truthfulness from these ministries making mega millions of their “flocks” while their leaders lead lives of luxury and comfort in a very rarified atmosphere?

Did the Reverend Bill Crews miss out on an attack from Brian Houston because he (Brian Houston) operates under the false teaching of “not touching the Lord’s anointed” (Reverend Bill Crews)?

It’s a mystery yet to be answered.

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