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Warning Of Fascist Trends Coming To C3 Global Presence Conference 2014: “Wake up Church, this is not Christianity!”

03 Monday Feb 2014

Posted by Nailed Truth in Uncategorized

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The fascist practices and philosophies emerging from the mega-church cults like C3, CHC and Hillsong church should concern Christians everywhere. They are unafraid to use propaganda and fuhrer-prinzip methodologies. They elevate arts, experience and feelings over logic and reason. They propagate the cult of youth and use the size of their ‘volkish’ community to bully Christians into submitting to their strong leadership and movements.

Sound extreme? Are we exaggerating the phenomenon? Are we making this up? Sadly, this is all too real. They may not realise it but these movements are built on the same community-identification principles that characterised the fascist movements in Europe in the 1920’s and 1930’s. Be aware that fascism isn’t to be confused with policies. Italian Fascism and German National Socialism were primarily personality cults where the vision of the leader must be implemented … the policies tended to be indistinguishable from socialism/communism. They were populist policies that played to the masses. The real danger is not where a Brian Houston or a Phil Pringle would take their organisations. The real danger is in whoever comes after them. C3 and Hillsong have set a precedent in Australia for the vision-casting leader who must be obeyed … or else!

Louie Giglio is speaking this year at Phil Pringle’s C3 Global Presence Conference 2014. Oddly enough, it has been observed that Giglio’s ministry also has fascist trends emerging from their movement. Please warn people how dangerous this man’s ministry is. Please also warn Christians the dangers of Phil Pringle’s Presence Conference.

Fascist Trends of Passion 2014

I cannot unpack all of the complexities of ideological fascism in this blog post and how it has revived under the name of postmodernism in our day and popular culture. 2 years in the works at HBP is an upcoming film on Fascism and the Postmodern church. See our full-length interview with Dr. Gene Edward Veith,Postmodernism, Fascism and the Church.

When people think of fascism today they think of Hitler, anti-semitism, the Holocaust, genocide, racism, militarism and the Nazis. Today, the word “Fascist” has been deduced to an insulting label for vilifying political enemies, but its true nature is greatly misunderstood. While Hitler and the Axis powers were defeated militarily in WWII, fascist ideology remains alive and well today under a new name.

Popular contemporary Christianity also appears to be emerging into something new. Much like the mainstream of European prefascist theology, many mainline church denominations have been turning away from transcendence and the Scriptures in favor of a spirituality based upon immanence, cultural activism, and existentialism. Many churches that were once committed to a high view of the teachings of Jesus and His apostles are now shifting their focus toward experience, emotionalism and communalism. In many ways, Christianity may be the strongest defense against fascism, but it may also be its point of entry. (See Veith’s book Modern Fascism: The Threat to the Judeo Christian Worldview and Chris Rosebrough’s lecture Resistance is Futile: You Will Be Assimilated into the Community)

Along with Darwinism and Existentialism, Romanticism was also a key component of the counter-Enlightenment worldview of ideological fascism. Romanticism emphasized inspiration and subjectivity as a reaction against alienation and the rationalism that characterized the Enlightenment. This movement in arts and literature reasserted the value of nature by explaining it with experience and emotions as opposed to reason, intellect and rationality.Passion, not reason, was uniquely “natural.”

Fascism rejected the concept of the individual. Nature, emotion and community become the emphasis of the fascist spirituality of immanence. In order to achieve this group identity, fascism was often characterized by grandiose public rallies. Hitler is pictured surrounded by people in panoramic shots of the community. “We have a community,” says Giglio in this Passion 2014 promo.

The group becomes the living organism or organic community. What you will find emphasized on the Passion 2014 website is not teaching the observance of everything Jesus commanded but the fascist themes of immanence (“God’s presence”) and community (“united”):

TWO GATHERINGS. ONE HEARTBEAT. THE JESUS GENERATION UNITED. . . .

Last year, our US gathering drew more than 60,000 students and leaders from around the world to the Georgia Dome in Atlanta. We were blown away by God’s presence. (source)

Rather than appealing to doctrine and objective truth, there is much talk and reliance upon feelings, emotions, action and movement. In fascism and postmodernism alike, emotionalism takes the place of logic. If objective truth and morality is alienating, then subjective experience is uniting.

Fascists did not know where this progressive revolution was going, but they believed anychange or any movement was better. Hitler uses the phrase “the Movement” over two hundred times in Mein Kampf and a Nazi Party journal was entitled Die Bewegung (The Movement).1 Similarly, the Postmodern Emerging Church has no fixed destination but is about action and movement. Likewise, the Passion 2014 event is described as a “movement.” Louie Giglio says, “More than an event, Passion is a movement,” in this Passion 2014 promo video.

The themes of the Passion movement and Passion 2014 are distinctly fascist. Christian Post reports:

The Passion 2014 Atlanta Conference kicked off at Philips Arena in Atlanta Friday with over 20,000 university students attending the two-day event from around the world.

Students from over 1,200 universities and 33 countries attended this year’s Passion conference in Atlanta. This is the first of Passion’s two large-scale gatherings this year in North America for 18-25 year olds. Passion 2014 Houston will be held on February 14-15 at the Toyota Center.

Passion 2014 brings together several internationally renowned pastors, teachers and worship leaders. Joining Passion founders Louie and Shelley Giglio in Atlanta will be John Piper, Christine Caine, and Francis Chan. Grammy award winning artists and worship leaders Chris Tomlin and Matt Redman, are slated to lead worship, along with David Crowder, Kristian Stanfill, Christy Nockels and Hillsong United. (source)

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Notice the event attendance is limited to ages 18-25 year old. The English fascist James Barnes wrote, “the present Weltanschauung of fascism may be summed up in one word–youth.”2 Belgian and Romanian fascisms both originated in student movements and the youth were also predominant in fascisms in France, Spain, Italy and England.3 Calling to mind Hitler Youth and German youth culture, Jonah Goldberg writes,

Historically, fascism is of necessity and by design a form of youth movement, and all youth movements have more than a whiff of fascism about them. The exaltation of passion over reason, action over deliberation, is a naturally youthful impulse.4

Last year, the Passion 2013 was an event for young Christians. These Christian conferences that fill stadiums with thousands of people reflect the subjective experience and emotional fulfillment of fascism that comes from losing one’s identity in a larger organic mass community. Judah Smith emphasized the importance of community all throughout his sermon.

The musical performances are very emotional with an emphasis on experiencing God’s presence and the heart rather than the mind. The audience joins in a common experience, feeling and responding as one. These stunning spectacles complete with light shows and music, much like the grandiose public rituals and mass rallies of fascism, actually create community. See here where the “presence” of God, tasting, seeing, and subjective feelings/”experience” are elevated, the fascist marks of immanence over objective truth and rationality.

The consequences of these fascist ideas will unleash a monster. Events like this are raising up a generation that cannot think or reason for themselves. We are seeing a picture that mirrors that of the culture of Continental Europe just prior to WWII. Wake up Church, this is not Christianity!

Sources:
1 Jonah Goldberg, Liberal Fascism (New York, NY: Random House Inc., 2007), 176
2 Zeev Sternhell, Fascist Ideology, Ed. Walter Laqueur, University of California Press, 338
3 Zeev Sternhell, Fascist Ideology, Ed. Walter Laqueur, University of California Press, 342
4 Jonah Goldberg, Liberal Fascism (New York, NY: Random House Inc., 2007), 165

Source: Elliott Nesch, Fascist Trends of Passion 2014, Holy Bible Prophecy, http://www.holybibleprophecy.org/2014/01/20/fascist-trends-of-passion-2014/, 20/01/2014. (Accessed 25/01/2014.)

Rosebrough Says Brian Houston Was “Intentionally Deceitful”

12 Saturday Jan 2013

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Scriptures say,

“We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God. And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake. For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.” – Apostle Paul, 2 Corinthians 4:2-6. Emphasis added.

Before starting his review on Brian Houston’s sermon ‘Only For A While’, Rosebrough says the following.

“I told you this sermon was coming up so you had fair warning. I told you before I went on Christmas break that Brian Houston was going to be umm- ‘preaching’ at Saddleback. He is one of the main teachers of the prosperity heresy. (Tells you that Rick Warren’s theology is off the rails.)” – Chris Rosebrough, LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37, http://0352182.netsolhost.com/F4F/F4F010713.mp3: 1:31:35, 07/01/2013.

Brian Houston sermon is (supposedly) based on 2 Corinthians 7.

 

Here is the sermon:

JANUARY 07, 2013

LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37

Click Here to Download this episode
Program segments:
• Does John 14:26 say that the Holy Spirit Will Speak in Your Heart?
• Louie Giglio Twists Ezekiel 37 at Passion 2013
• Sermon Review: Only For a While by Brian Houston preaching at Saddleback

Email your questions or comments to: talkback@fightingforthefaith.com

Source: Chris Rosebrough, LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37, http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/2013/01/louie-giglio-twists-ezekiel-37.html, 07/01/2013. (Accessed 13/01/2013.)

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Rosebrough further states “Brian Houston of Hillsong” is,

“a noted, well-known prosperity/Word-of-Faith heretic. That’s what Brian Houston is. We’ve covered quite a few of his false sermons here at Fighting For The Faith over the years. And it’s important to note he’s at Saddleback church. That’s basically Rick Warren thumbing his nose at Jesus and the Holy Spirit and saying, ‘I don’t care if Your Word says to separate myself from people who teach false doctrine. I’m going to have Brian Houston over here anyway because he’s so popular right now’. I think that’s the right way of looking at it.” – Chris Rosebrough, LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37, http://0352182.netsolhost.com/F4F/F4F010713.mp3: 1:32:10, 07/01/2013.

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Christ Rosebrough accuses Brian Houston of serious issues in how he treats 2 Corinthians 7. At 2:02:35, Rosebrough states how Houston is handling the text.

“He’s missing, I would say intentionally missing the point of this letter.”

Then came this serious protest against Houston’s handling of the biblical text.

“Listen. Folks, I’m sorry. I’ve watched this thing twice. This is intentional. This is absolute intentionally deceitful. He starts off in the New King James version and then right here, he switches to ‘The Message’. And the reason why he switches to ‘The Message’ is so that he doesn’t have to read, ‘for Godly grief produces repentance’… He literally wants to avoid what this text says… So at this point, this is like a magic trick. Okay? He’s now going to, ‘Oh! Just let me switch to The Message okay?’ But he’s doing that so that he can continue to make his point that ‘they discovered the power of ‘only for a while’, rather than make the point how Godly grief produces repentance.” – Chris Rosebrough, LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37, http://0352182.netsolhost.com/F4F/F4F010713.mp3: 2:03:02, 07/01/2013.

The sermon was so bad, Brian Houston had Chris Rosebrough marvel.

“Man! He is a skilled- quite skilled bible-twister. He is very careful to avoid the passages that would upset the agenda that he has set for this text. Because the last thing he wants to do is let God’s agenda for this text, come through.” – Chris Rosebrough, LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37, http://0352182.netsolhost.com/F4F/F4F010713.mp3: 2:17:42, 07/01/2013.

Later, Rosebrough observes,

“Brian Houston has done a masterful tap-dance routine here to make sure to avoid having to talk about Godly grief that produces repentance.” – Chris Rosebrough, LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37, http://0352182.netsolhost.com/F4F/F4F010713.mp3: 2:18:47, 07/01/2013.

Rosebrough ends his review with this conclusion:

“He literally bent God’s Word into a pretzel- literally distorted it in order to avoid at all costs, making the point that’s actually been made in this text… Brian Houston literally, did everything in his power, pulled out every hermeneutical twisting technique that you could possibly think of. Going backwards in the text. Forwards in the text. Switching to The Message paraphrase. Everything he could do to make sure not to make the point the text makes. And what would you expect from somebody who is a Word of Faith heretic? They are not men of God (or women of God). None of the above. They are agents of the devil and the devil is a liar and a deceiver. That’s why when they get the pulpit or get on stage they lie and they deceive by tampering and distorting God’s Word. Dangerous days we live in.” – Chris Rosebrough, LOUIE GIGLIO TWISTS EZEKIEL 37, http://0352182.netsolhost.com/F4F/F4F010713.mp3: 2:33:21, 07/01/2013.

While the Apostle Paul refuses “to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word, Rosebrough exposed Brian Houston of his cunning. That is, he exposed Houston of intentionally tampering “with God’s word” to preach what he wanted to preach.

But it’s worse than that. Brian Houston attacked and demonised the Apostle Paul. How?

It was the Apostle who rebuked his readers and gave them Godly grief. And it was also Paul in this letter that stated, “what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.” So not only did they rebuke the Corinthians, they purposely saw themselves as servants to Jesus, not proclaiming themselves but JESUS. As John the Baptist declared that he must decrease so Jesus may increase, so too was Paul and his instruction to the Corinth church similar. 

Brian Houston did the exact opposite. He preached selfishness and excluded Jesus. Brian had the audacity to say, “the devil wants to keep your life small”. Doesn’t that sound like something Paul’s enemies would say? Why would you want to limit yourself to the role of a servant? Isn’t that small thinking? Isn’t that limiting your potential for God’s plan in your life? Do you think Brian Houston has a god that keeps him on the narrow road and points him to the small gate?

 

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